Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by FlyersFan
As for the part about Allah being a "pagan moon god"...its only the fundamentalist Christians who keep rambling on about it. So one can safely dismiss
those claims as hogwash.
There is no way that Jesus, Who was God incarnate, would call out to a pagan moon god.
Let's see what the Quran says....
It was not Fundamental Christians who wrote the Quran...but you know what it says, you know I am going to post it, there may be others who have not
heard about it yet.
Let's start at
Surah 53:1 By the star when it descends,
What is the star that descends???
Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,
Whose companion? The companion of Allah? The star? Whose companion? He did not
say Abu Bakr, Uthman, Abu Haraira or Umar, so who's companion is he? Remember, Allah takes no partners, right? Because Mohammed does not say here who
his companion is, then we must assume it is either Allah or the star.
Surah 53:3Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.
Does he speak by the companion? Either he is speaking by the star or Allah and since
the star is descending at the beginning, one has to assume Allah. And notice here, he does not say Shaytan either, he does not say Jinn, because
Shaytan is a jinn, therefore made of smoke and not a star.
Surah 53:4 It is not but a revelation revealed,
Ah, so the star gives revelation.
Surah 53:5 Taught to him by one intense in strength -
Allah teaches Mohammed, right? So the star is giving revelation and teaching,
Surah 53:5 One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true form
Surah 53:6 While he was in the higher [part of the] horizon.
Wait, you mean Mohammed was looking at a visible object in the sky? The one who
revealed, rose and taught...was visible, in the sky?
Surah 53:7 Then he approached and descended
So far, Mohammed has not said he was in a vision or a dream, he is saying that he really saw a
visible object descending.
Surah 53:8 And was at a distance of two bow lengths or nearer.
Pretty close there.
Surah 53:9 And he revealed to His Servant what he revealed.
Sure this was not Allah?
Surah 53:10 The heart did not lie [about] what it saw.
He wants you to believe him.
Surah 53:11 So will you dispute with him over what he saw?
It occurred to me here that this is not Mohammed speaking, but one of the
Companions. Wait, I thought every verse in the Quran was supposed to be the words of Mohammed, but here, clearly it is not. And I have not even gotten
to the daughters of Allah yet.
Surah 53: 12 And he certainly saw him in another descent
Oh, this visible object has been seen more than once, so why dispute Mohammed's
Surah 53:13 At the Lote Tree of the Utmost Boundary -
In paradise, where all the houris are (houri was originally found in Zoroastrianism
along with jinns)
Surah 53:14 Near it is the Garden of Refuge -
Exactly what it was always called in Zoroastrianism.
Surah 53:15 When there covered the Lote Tree that which covered [it].
Stays on Zoroastrianism
Surah 53:16 The sight [of the Prophet] did not swerve, nor did it transgress [its limit].
He really saw it.
Surah 53:17 He certainly saw of the greatest signs of his Lord.
He saw a lot, believe the writer.
Surah 53:18 So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?
Two of the daughters of Allah
Surah 53: 19 And Manat, the third - the other one?
There she is, the third daughter of Allah
Surah 53:20 Is the male for you and for Him the female?
For who? Allah, Mohammed? Who is Him? Since it is capitalized, I am assuming this
means for Allah. Is the writer complaining that someone else gets the male but Allah gets the female?
Surah 53:21 That, then, is an unjust division.
It's unfair that who gets what? You mean Mohammed is upset that Allah got the females?
Because I am running out of room here, I will continue this in a following post. I want to dissect this Surah and posting the whole thing to stay in
To be continued.....
edit on 10/7/2012 by WarminIndy because: (no reason given)