Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by WarminIndy
Now I want to know here, from these Surahs...where is the command that as a Christian, I have to accept Mohammed as the prophet of allah? And
apparently, these Surahs not only say that with Allah, I'm good to go as a Christian, even if I take another god with Allah, at least Allah will
decide where I go. It says nothing there about any person, no person, none whatsoever, no Muslim, no Jew, no Christian, no body even has to say the
shahada. So why do you have to say it?
You have raised an extremely valid point.
1. I dont think anybody asked you to accept Mohammad as a prophet. (I know I didn't)
2. The Koran, if I recall correctly.... teaches that the Jew and the Christian will be judged by his holy books... meaning, if you are christian and
YOU messed up with Jesus' commands, you have nobody to blame but yourself....and YOUR failure to follow Jesus' commands.
Now I also ask this, why in some places does the Quran say Allah and some places it says God? If Allah is God, then why no consistency in that?
Why is God called by a number of different names/titles in the bible?
edit on 6-10-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
The calling card for every confessing Muslim is that they must take the Shahada. This is an unbroken rule in Islam.
La ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasul Allah. There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of God.
Significance of the Shahada
Sincere recitation of this confession of faith before of two Muslims is the sole requirement for those who wish to join the Muslim community. It
represents acceptance not only of Allah and his prophet, but of the entirety of Islam. As one of the Pillars, the shahada must be recited correctly
aloud with full understanding and internal assent at least once in every Muslim's lifetime. The shahada is also recited in the muzzein's call to
prayer, included in the salat (daily ritual prayer) and incorporated in Sufi contemplative prayer. It is also recited in the moments before death.
From the shahada are derived the other fundamental doctrines of Islam: angels, the Qur'an and the Bible, the prophets, and the Day of Judgment.
For Jesus to be Muslim, he must say the Shahada. And because Mohammed lived 600 years later, it would impossible for Him to do so. Moses lived several
thousand years earlier than Mohammed, so therefore Moses could not either be a Muslim. The same goes with every prophet the Quran says are Muslim.
Mohammed did not say he was paraclete, that was something other Muslims have tried to insert. So as a Christian, if I believe in God (Yaweh), the last
day and do good deeds, then I am not really kafir. So then why the later verses in the Quran saying that I am a polytheist and should be killed
wherever I am found?
The reason that you might think God is called different titles is because in the Hebrew, when the words were used such as Adonai (Lord) and I AM
(Yaweh), the understanding was that when using those words, people knew the context. Because Allah is just a contraction word, "il" and "ilah",
which simply means "the god", there would be no purpose in interchanging.
I know that people might be confused on Yaweh and Jehova, however, the reason English speakers tend to say Jehova is because when the Bible was
translated into English and the word Yaweh (Yod he waw he), the Tetragrammaton, then German translators realized that grammatically correct wording
for German was Ja for Ya, because the J is the Y sound in German. So in essence, it is not two different words, just two different spellings, much
like in Arabic you might say Yusef for Joseph and Uzair for Ezra or Yehudi for Judah.
The Jews have traditionally not said Yaweh, but have said HaShem is more respectful, in their belief. HaShem means "The Name" which is consistent
throughout the Bible. Whenever you see "The Name" or "My Name" in Hebrew it is "HaShem".
Archeological evidence supports the name Yaweh since before the Jewish religion was even founded. That is why no prophet in the Bible could ever just
say Allah, because they all spoke by "The Name". And Jesus did the same thing when saying "Before Abraham was, I Am". When He said that, all the
Jews knew exactly what He meant.
Allah is just a generic word for any god. HaShem is specific, because The Name is Yaweh.