reply to post by sk0rpi0n
Who am I to believe?
I tried telling you, tried showing you. It ain't up to me, it's up to God. Why he gives some people this revelation of who he is and not others, is
beyond me. 2 years ago when i first became a christian believer, i didn't know he was God either. I thought of him as literally God's Son, in human
terms. 6 months later i asked Jesus to show him who he is and i started finding things in the OT and NT pointing at him. Maybe it's because you can't
let go and entertain the possibility he is Yahweh. Jesus himself said the Torah was written about him and Moses believed in him. The Torah was about
God and the history of Israel during Genesis to Moses time. There is only one person that book could be about, the Savior. God is the Savior. Jesus is
the Savior. Jesus holds the name above all names, that name is Yahweh.
6 “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
‘I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.
Both saying they are the First and the Last.
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the
First and the Last,”
and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to
Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One
like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. 14 His head and hair were white like wool,
as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many
waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its
strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First
and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen.
And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
So how is it God can be the First and the Last in Isaiah 44 and here in Revelation 1 Jesus is saying he is the First and the Last? The simplest answer
is the truest one, because he is Yahweh. He reveals the Father, who is Spirit. Think "The Lord of the Rings", the ring wraiths were spirits but you
could see them because of their cloaks and armor gave them a physical appearance. The physical appearence of the Father is in the Son, the Father is
where the Son is, the Son reveals Him. Just like how on Mt. Sinai he picked up Moses and put him in the cleft and showed him his back, that was the
Son, that was pre-incarnate Jesus.
John 9:39 And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made
Exodus 32:34 Now therefore, go, lead the people to the place of which I have spoken to you. Behold, My Angel shall go before you. Nevertheless, in the
day when I visit for punishment, I will visit punishment upon them for their sin.”
Exodus 32:34, his visitation was the day Jesus said John 9:39.
29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30 and say,
‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’
31 “Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your
fathers’ guilt. 33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34 Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and
scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35 that on you
may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered
between the temple and the altar. 36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
Jesus Laments over Jerusalem
37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children
together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39 for I say to you, you
shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’
Now you know what the last 2000 years has been about and the upcoming Jacob's Trouble.
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