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posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
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You'll miss on your your free phone dude. Think twice!


It's like they're not even trying anymore. I remember when smear campaigns at least had some creativity and flair to them. Now? Now it's like political ads are sub-contracted out to frat houses and with 5 hour deadlines. I don't know if this means politicians are getting lazier, cockier, or if they just feel we've gotten dumber.

~Heff


I'd say it's a mixture of laziness, cockiness, and dumbassness.

We're headed for a perfect storm of human idiocy.




posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh... like I said, we should outlaw nutrition fact labels, since they're evil and all. Tyrannical government forcing corporations to put how much sodium, fat, and calories is generally in their products.


How about not arresting people for growing food? Or making it illegal for my neighbour to drink raw milk from my farm. What about not poisoning your water supply?

Do you know what the FDA is? Who is in control of it? It's a FEDERAL organization.

If people are empowered none of these evil corporations would last a single quarter before they either changed their disgusting practices or went out of business. Just like the banks and auto companies should have. But everyone is too busy agreeing that individuals can't take care of themselves and empowering government to take care of them.

Obama thinks you are nothing but a vote. Romney is no different. You are just putting your head in the sand and wishing it wasn't so... The alternative is WAY to hard to admit and deal with. They are both disgusting individuals.



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Double effing post. Grr.
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posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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I picked it up as sarcastic, I was just responding to it seriously for everyone else's benefit. Just because OP is sarcastic (one of three languages I happen to be fluent in: English, Sarcasm, and Sexual Innuendo) doesn't mean everyone else is, and those were the responses I was looking for.


I may play the same game - that doesn't mean I play it for the same reasons. That's how I win without other people knowing it, because they were looking the other way the whole time. The best part: they can win too!
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posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by rwfresh

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by boncho
 


Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh... like I said, we should outlaw nutrition fact labels, since they're evil and all. Tyrannical government forcing corporations to put how much sodium, fat, and calories is generally in their products.


How about not arresting people for growing food? Or making it illegal for my neighbour to drink raw milk from my farm. What about not poisoning your water supply?

Do you know what the FDA is? Who is in control of it? It's a FEDERAL organization.

If people are empowered none of these evil corporations would last a single quarter before they either changed their disgusting practices or went out of business. Just like the banks and auto companies should have. But everyone is too busy agreeing that individuals can't take care of themselves and empowering government to take care of them.

Obama thinks you are nothing but a vote. Romney is no different. You are just putting your head in the sand and wishing it wasn't so... The alternative is WAY to hard to admit and deal with. They are both disgusting individuals.




This. This right here.
This is the truth.



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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Gotcha...no worries.



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Ok we get it. Your guy is Ron Paul.
Sorry, he didnt make the ballet.


NEXT.....



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Ah, darn, and I thought you had come to your senses!


I got the sarcasm after I read your OP. Oh well, there's still time to join the Right Side......



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Left and right wing ideology is not synonymous with republican/democrat.

Left and ring wing ideology are NOTHING like one another... where republican/democrats can overlap because they are both capitalists. But even reps/dems vote differently than one another on many things..

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posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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So you like the things mentioned in the OP?


That's right to you?



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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That about sums it up!



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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So if right/left wing ideology are the same thing then there is no difference between communism and capitalism?



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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the textbook ideologies may be different, but in practice by the current political parties, they are identical in outcomes. this entire article is weak. not a single insult you throw at repubs could not equally be slung at and stick to the dems. a quick check and comparison of typical ATS articles, let alone net research, would show you the obvious. both parties are building a fascist empire. a marxist central state, socialist society, crony capitalist economy, police state enforcement. every major action by both party establishments in some way or another advances that goal.
most of the differences you are touting are superficial trappings to maintain the illusion of choice, whos primary purpose is to create divide and conquer factions. the people are only choosing red kool aid or blue. its quite sad to hear so much energy and potential being wasted on arguing the merits and superiority of blue sugar water over red. well, probably HFC now, but the point remains. there will be no change until more people wake up to that fact.



posted on Oct, 1 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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The only Republican I was willing to vote for was Jon Huntsman. I think he was a decent guy and more toward the center unfortunately the majority of the GOP saw this as weakness and never gave him a fair shot. I do not care for Obama but he is a far better choice than Romney.

The GOP failed them this election by pushing the extreme right agenda. I think the coming loss for the GOP this election is the best possible outcome for them because it should (we are all hoping) make them realize they should be representing the people and not the corporate personhood. I can see the Republican Party splitting into 2 or 3 factions after the election and maybe come back to be a strong party. What they have become is nothing more than a shadow of what they once were.

I know there are still people holding out hope that Romney will win for those people I will not argue with you but after the election I hope we can reasonable discussions on how the Republican Party should be rebuilt.

From diversity this country becomes stronger. From the ashes new life can spout. This is what I hope for with the GOP. Where there is an end there is also a new beginning. This can be good for them which in turn can be good for us all.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 05:45 AM
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It seems every time I see you post you're bashing republicans or defending democrats like they aren't part of the same corrupt system.

It's so very, very tiring to see how caught up in the illusion of choice you really are.

"republicans are racists" ad infinitum.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
There is no possibility for compromises on certain issues, like abortion.


I know not everyone will agree on everything, but what about abortions being allowed but only to a certain term, like say 2 months?

I would hardly consider 2 months development a baby and surely that is enough time to both a) find out you are pregnant and b) decide what to do.

Surely we can agree partial birth abortions are grotesque.

Would there be a time when it could be done beyond the two month limit? Maybe if the mother's life was endanger by the pregnancy?

Just my two about what a compromise would look like - at least one where a majority of people might agree if they weren't beholden to the group think that is the republicans and democrats.

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Besides the whole abortion thing is something just to get the bases all worked up over nothing. Its not going anywhere. TPTB love abortion and even when they get a "conservative" in the WH nothing changes on that front because they are not allowed to change it - just like they can't really close the borders down and stop illegal immigration. Those are very popular with the conservative base but you won't see their guy touching those subjects in any meaningful way because their handlers have told them "off limits".

Again there is really no difference between these two parties in actual actions they take. Sure the rhetoric is divisive - its supposed to be - but behind closed doors when they really do things they all play on the same team. The one that the BIG corporations and the elite own.

Representatives my @$$!!


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posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by gladtobehere
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Because the Democrats arent ALSO bought and paid for by lobbyists, special interest groups and political action committees.

Wake up.

What did Obama say about his administration and lobbyists? Someone remind me.













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AMEN!!!!!! I LOVED YOUR POST!



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by deadpool84
 


Left and right wing ideology is not synonymous with republican/democrat.

Left and ring wing ideology are NOTHING like one another... where republican/democrats can overlap because they are both capitalists. But even reps/dems vote differently than one another on many things..

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This tells the whole story. This here tells why you do not get it and only seek out the divisive surface. This is why you you so easily dismiss the obvious, they are the same coin, two sides. Why you consider the main issues that clearly show it's the same road to serfdom.This here tells why your threads are a waste of effort.

You just DO NOT understand the game they play ON YOU!
It is called the dialectic. Explained and elaborated on by Sam Wilhelm Hegel. Stalin used it, Hitler used it and the 2 party system is set up for it. All they need is willing dupes to propogate it.
Thesis-antithesis=synthesis.
Or problem-reaction=solution.
Add any divisive topic, find the willing dupes and watch the mind numbing process at work. Watch how any kog can play along pretending to be smart by choosing one side....it matters not which side, thesis or antithesis. What matters is that you miss the facts that you are being played by participating. The end is the same, predetermined synthesis. And when the results are less than complete, say a 2 on a scale of 1-10, you just seek more dupes to champion the sides and start the game over again....and again....and again.....and again.
What we are sure to find is that there are many pseudo-smart people that think they are champions for an ideal to play the game for them. All the while the strings that manipulate the players seemingly are unseen by the participants. The internet has replaced the need for them to even need to fund the sides half the time. They do not need to group and fund idealogues now, they get the dupes for free most of time. The arg now almost every day is about who is the lesser of the 2 evils. How sad a state of affairs we have found ourselves in. The 2 party system isn't broke, it works to absolute perfection.....to the dialectic.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by headorheart
 


Democrats are not trying to make abortion illegal, not voting to get rid of corporate regulation, not against the civil rights bill, not against nationalized healthcare, not against equal rights, and not against labeling GMO food.

Try again.

There are parts where democrat and republican politicians are very similar, but their fanbases are vastly different.
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Democrats aren't voting to get rid of corporate regulation either. What are you talking about dude. Did you not see where Bush's tax cuts were kept already once in Obama's term?

How are Republicans against equal rights?



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Republican or Democrat. Makes no difference. Do you actually see a noticeable difference between Obama and Bush? Seriously?

Burn another fatty and forget about it. That's the ticket.....





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