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Originally posted by TTAA2012
Well in the first place the Jews just want to be left alone in peace so they can raise their children just like most civilized people. It's the uncivilized savages in the Muslim world (I realize that not all Muslims are the same, so don't even go there) that want to destroy Israel that are the aggressors here.
Originally posted by TTAA2012
Israel has the most advanced military in the Middle East, and even surpasses other nations worldwide.
Originally posted by TTAA2012
According to scripture that BOTH Jews and Muslims hold sacred, the Old Testament/Torah, God gave ALL of the land between the Nile and Euphrates to Abraham and his descendants as an "Everlasting possession."
Originally posted by ArtooDetoo
Originally posted by TTAA2012
Well in the first place the Jews just want to be left alone in peace so they can raise their children just like most civilized people. It's the uncivilized savages in the Muslim world (I realize that not all Muslims are the same, so don't even go there) that want to destroy Israel that are the aggressors here.
Yes, Israelis just want to be let alone so they can raise their children in peace, but at same time they use white phosphorus on Palestinian terrorists who use children as human shields, like this.
Originally posted by TTAA2012
According to scripture that BOTH Jews and Muslims hold sacred, the Old Testament/Torah, God gave ALL of the land between the Nile and Euphrates to Abraham and his descendants as an "Everlasting possession."
16 Again the word of the Lord came to me: 17 “Son of man, when the people of Israel were living in their own land, they defiled it by their conduct and their actions. Their conduct was like a woman’s monthly uncleanness in my sight. 18 So I poured out my wrath on them because they had shed blood in the land and because they had defiled it with their idols. 19 I dispersed them among the nations, and they were scattered through the countries; I judged them according to their conduct and their actions. 20 And wherever they went among the nations they profaned my holy name, for it was said of them, ‘These are the Lord’s people, and yet they had to leave his land.’ 21 I had concern for my holy name, which the people of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone.
22 “Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
24 “‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will save you from all your uncleanness. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and will not bring famine upon you. 30 I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and wicked deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. 32 I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign Lord. Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct, people of Israel!
33 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it. 35 They will say, “This land that was laid waste has become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins, desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited.” 36 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the Lord have spoken, and I will do it.’
37 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Once again I will yield to Israel’s plea and do this for them: I will make their people as numerous as sheep, 38 as numerous as the flocks for offerings at Jerusalem during her appointed festivals. So will the ruined cities be filled with flocks of people. Then they will know that I am the Lord.”
“Israel wants to just live in peace then why did they start ethnic cleansing the land? They would set fire to houses and shoot the people as they came out they even went as far as cutting open the bellies of dead pregnant women. One UN observer said it was the most savage thing they had ever seen. So how are the Zionist supposed to live like civilized people when they themselves are nothing but savages? “
When was the last time you looked at a map? They ignored the borders setup for them in 48 so the borders were expanded in 67 after they stole even more land and yet again they ignored the borders and to this day they keep stealing more and more land. As even you can see in this map Israel just keeps getting bigger and bigger how is this possible if they aren't expanding their borders?
Originally posted by 3n19m470
I am site someones already made a thread or something on this... But, the part I found most interesting was when he said "during the 90s America was sleeping and Isreal was dreaming. Then isreal woke up to the terrorist threats in September of 2000, and then in 2001 with the bombings in New York and Washington, then America woke up too"
I remember hearing about some airplanes crashing into buildings, but I didn't know there were also bombs. Well, I guess you learn something new everyday!
Well to be honest with you. After all the lies that come out of this mans mouth. It makes me wonder how many Scuds were actually fired on Israel from Iraq.
Originally posted by TTAA2012
Originally posted by buster2010
reply to post by TTAA2012
Well in the first place the Jews just want to be left alone in peace so they can raise their children just like most civilized people. It's the uncivilized savages in the Muslim world (I realize that not all Muslims are the same, so don't even go there) that want to destroy Israel that are the aggressors here.
If Israel wants to just live in peace then why did they start ethnic cleansing the land? They would set fire to houses and shoot the people as they came out they even went as far as cutting open the bellies of dead pregnant women. One UN observer said it was the most savage thing they had ever seen. So how are the Zionist supposed to live like civilized people when they themselves are nothing but savages?
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The common representation of Israel’s birth is that the UN created Israel, that the world was in favor of this move, and that the US governmental establishment supported it. All these assumptions are demonstrably incorrect.
In reality, while the UN General Assembly recommended the creation of a Jewish state in part of Palestine, that recommendation was non-binding and never implemented by the Security Council.
Second, the General Assembly passed that recommendation only after Israel proponents threatened and bribed numerous countries in order to gain a required two-thirds of votes.
The passage of the General Assembly recommendation sparked increased violence in the region. Over the following months the armed wing of the pro-Israel movement, which had long been preparing for war, perpetrated a series of massacres and expulsions throughout Palestine, implementing a plan to clear the way for a majority-Jewish state.
It was this armed aggression, and the ethnic cleansing of at least three-quarters of a million indigenous Palestinians, that created the Jewish state on land that had been 95 percent non-Jewish prior to Zionist immigration and that even after years of immigration remained 70 percent non-Jewish. And despite the shallow patina of legality its partisans extracted from the General Assembly, Israel was born over the opposition of American experts and of governments around the world, who opposed it on both pragmatic and moral grounds.
Approximately 50 years before, a movement called political Zionism had begun in Europe. Its intention was to create a Jewish state in Palestine through pushing out the Christian and Muslim inhabitants who made up over 95 percent of its population and replacing them with Jewish immigrants.
As this colonial project grew through subsequent years, the indigenous Palestinians reacted with occasional bouts of violence; Zionists had anticipated this since people usually resist being expelled from their land. In various written documents cited by numerous Palestinian and Israeli historians, they discussed their strategy: they would buy up the land until all the previous inhabitants had emigrated, or, failing this, use violence to force them out.
When the buy-out effort was able to obtain only a few percent of the land, Zionists created a number of terrorist groups to fight against both the Palestinians and the British. Terrorist and future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin later bragged that Zionists had brought terrorism both to the Middle East and to the world at large.
Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by lambros56
Well to be honest with you. After all the lies that come out of this mans mouth. It makes me wonder how many Scuds were actually fired on Israel from Iraq.
You're that young ha?
The 39 Scud missiles that Saddam launched on Israel is a well known recorded fact.
It doesn't take a genius to make a 5 seconds research.
Originally posted by trysts
I personally see no logic to bombing Iran's nuclear facilities, because if they had a nuclear bomb they would use it on Israel? If Iran wanted a nuclear bomb to use on Israel they would just use the black market. There is no clear reasoning from Israel's point of view on the nuclear issue. If Israel attacks Iran, then it is done because of hegemonic fantasies equivalent in ignorance to assuming the attack's response would only last a month. That's how I see it