Originally posted by ArtooDetoo
Originally posted by TTAA2012
Make no mistake though, Israel WILL attack Iran whether they can count on the US to help or not.
Oh really ? So why dont they ? Nutjob Netanyahu claimed back in 1992 that Iran was close to having a bomb, thats 20 years ago, why havent they attacked yet ?
Well in the first place the Jews just want to be left alone in peace so they can raise their children just like most civilized people. It's the uncivilized savages in the Muslim world (I realize that not all Muslims are the same, so don't even go there) that want to destroy Israel that are the aggressors here.
For all of the people that claim Israel is the bully, constantly stealing the land of their Arab neighbors, I'd like to ask why it is that they haven't expanded their borders beyond the original UN mandate. They even gave the Sinai back to Egypt even though the land was a legitimate "spoil of war." Israel has the most advanced military in the Middle East, and even surpasses other nations worldwide. So why haven't they used it to form a "Greater Israel" in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan; parts of which were parts of Israel in antiquity? It's not like the Arabs could stop them.
According to scripture that BOTH Jews and Muslims hold sacred, the Old Testament/Torah, God gave ALL of the land between the Nile and Euphrates to Abraham and his descendants as an "Everlasting possession."
Genesis 12:1-3
1 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.
2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
Genesis 15:18-21
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, “To your offspring I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates, 19 the land of the Kenites, the Kenizzites, the Kadmonites, 20 the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, 21 the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girga#es and the Jebusites.”
Genesis 17:7-8
7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.”
Any HONEST Muslim will tell you that the Holy Land is, has been since antiquity, and will continue to be - for eternity - the home of the Jewish people. And they'll use the Koran and Suras to do it:
Prof. Khaleel Mohammed, Islamic Law scholar of the San Diego State University, noted that Sura 5 verse 21 of the Qur'an, and the medieval exegetes of the Qur'an, say that Israel belongs to the Jews. He translates it thus:
[quote"][Moses said]: O my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has written for you, and do not turn tail, otherwise you will be losers." Mohammed here understands "written" to mean this is the final word from God on the subject.
The Quran, chapter 17 (Al-Isra), verse 104:
“And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.
The Quran, chapter 5 (Al-Ma'ida), verse 20-107:
"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, ... enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."
Now before anyone goes off on me complaining about a "Magic Man in the Sky", or "ancient fables", I'd just like to point out that it doesn't make a spit bit of difference what YOU believe. The fact remains that the Jews and Muslims DO believe it, and the Muslim world especially bases their laws and foreign policy on a "WWAW" (What Would Allah Want) worldview.
So any Muslim who doesn't support a Jewish homeland in Israel, especially in light of what the Koran says on the subject, is a liar and an apostate.
According to the Koran, the penalty for apostasy is beheading. Let the games begin.
edit on 9/30/2012 by TTAA2012 because: (no reason given)
edit on 9/30/2012 by TTAA2012 because: (no reason given)
