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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by jhill76
Which means the data is incomplete. Yet everyone immediately falls on it in a frenzy. So who's the idiot, now?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by jhill76
Just out of curiosity, will the "harvest" resemble anything like "ahnggk" describes on the first page of this thread?
Will it resemble some kind of natural disaster?
edit on 30-9-2012 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)
Quite possibly God has taken those souls of the male Jewish infants killed during the time of their enslavement in Egypt and kept them in heaven until He needs to put them back on earth . God does work in mysterious ways .
1. Most Christians interpret the son of man on the cloud to be Jesus himself.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by DISRAELI
The purpose of the book is not to provide a detailed future history, but to provide encouragement to the church in time of crisis.,
Fair enough, but then your earlier statement about how it was all a play-like method to get users to understand things doesn't hold. If most of the book is cryptic....and I've learned that not even christians agree on many parts.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand.
15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.”
16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
-Revelations 14:14-16
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand.
15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.”
16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
-Revelations 14:14-16
Lets break it down..
1. A "son of man" appears.
2. An angel appears.
3. The angel instructs the son of man to do something.
4. The son of man does as he is told.
Here's the interesting part...
1. Most Christians interpret the son of man on the cloud to be Jesus himself.
If it was Jesus, then don't Christians(especially those who believe Jesus is God) find it strange that an angel is telling Jesus what to do?
Also note that immediately after, we read about a second angel instructing a third angel with a sickle to make a harvest of the "grapes" (symbolic of souls, I guess). Both the son of man and the third angel were being instructed to make a harvest.
2. Another thing I'd like to point out, since revelations was written after Jesus walked the earth, so why didn't the writer just mention the name "Jesus Christ" instead of "son of man"?
Discuss.
edit on 30-9-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jhill76
No, it will be only for Earth. But, it will be a natural disaster in a human sense. But, there will be nothing natural about it, if that makes sense.
That one has always scared the crap out of me Beings sitting in the sky waiting to Harvest!...Reapers! Harvesting the earth??? Probably gonna be around Thanksgiving or Christmas when they are all nice and plump stuffed from all the Holiday indulging! All the poor fat people are going to be rounded up like cattle...to feed what???
Can you identify these "most people"?
I think most people who read Matthew 24 verse 30 believe that Jesus is sitting on the clouds at the Harvest.