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Originally posted by Pervius
I've been following the Lakota succession for a few years. The Indians were mad a year or two ago when US Army helicopters started landing on their land where long ago the US Army slaughtered the indians.
The Lakota have been contacting foreign governments to get those foreign countries to recognize they ain't part of America anymore.....Well they never WERE legally part of America anyways.
Those Indians will be slaughtered again. They're gonna soon be dead. There's a tiny portion brave enough to speak out and try to keep sovereign....they'll be dead soon.
If the Lakota wanted to rock the World, they'd announce they accept all the Palestinians and are forming a joint Palestinian State in America.....boy wouldn't that get them far more support? Going alone they'll never survive.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I hate to be the wet blanket on his rain dance, but he's being absurd and an idiot. I have every respect for the Native American culture and peoples.....despite what the conditions of a few decades have done to them in several areas of the nation. However? This??
It's interesting that Wounded Knee be a part of his direct past, as we can look to that as to how far this is likely to get. A lot of noise and a lot of trouble, potentially, with a bloody finish...likely...and moving on to the next crisis on the front page when it's over. Nothing really changed and nothing much better for anyone.
I also don't see much for specifics.
When the Indians of New York got their backs up hard over taxes in the 90's, they very seriously threatened to sever the High Tension lines crossing tribal land between Buffalo and Erie. I recall those days as the company I was running for had it's trucking nearly living in the Northeast. The big bonfires they had burning along I-90 at night in protest and to make a statement were spooky.
When Arizona/New Mexico tribes got THEIR backs up about taxes and the Casinos, they threatened to shut down I-40 and either keep it closed or set their own tolls for passage across Tribal lands.
Those actions got attention and brought REAL action from the Government. Concessions in both cases, as I recall the outcomes.... This looks like a P.R. statement so far?edit on 29-9-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: minor correction.
it's funny how when the white man came here what he did to us indigenous people and now today we have a leader of one of these nations offering a hand of hope back to the white man and many ridicule them for it, how backwards is that?????
Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES
reply to post by zonetripper2065
My thought exactly.... Hopefully he does not get a case of "severe depression" and off himself... ahem...
Originally posted by henrybowman
I am pleased to see a repeat effort on the part of the Lakota- Sioux to secede. The timing is strategically better suited to success than the effort in '07. Many of us are fed up with our government and would be happy to join up with this endeavor. You can't keep your boot on someones neck without some serious push back.
As far as Casino issues are concerned, you try to support a community on SSI/Disability/Welfare and charity with no viable alternatives... hmmm you could try to beat them at their own game... it is something that you would have control over. It was a choice and some ran with it.
Over time people have been and continue to be stripped of their dignity...circumstances are imposed that are designed to create an atmosphere of hopelessness, resignation and dependance.
Compliance is anathema to humanity.
Originally posted by Dustytoad
Originally posted by dayve
how can someone join a Sioux tribe, if they are not Sioux....
By becoming a Sioux... They invited you so they will accept you, but they don't need your baggage. (2007) and still, I am Sioux/Cherokee, and yet I am some random white guy, who is living like any American(poor) but anyway.
You can come join America and be American no matter where you are from. Think about it.
Originally posted by CB328
I work on a reservation and I wouldn't be too quick to want to emulate them. it's nice that they value nature (as do I) but after seeing how poor, uneducated and lazy most of them are, and how many problems they have I wouldn't want to live with them.edit on 29-9-2012 by CB328 because: typo
Originally posted by dayve
Thats pretty faulty on their part... I dont know any tribes around here you can just be a part of over night without getting a blood test done to prove you are indian... I think its 1/4... I dont think sioux has benefits but most tribes i know get about 2k-3500 a month plus the other perks... Either way, if the Sioux are that desperate and need to do this for whatever purpose, so be it... Glad im not Sioux...