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LAKOTA SIOUX NATION Secession In Progress and YOU are invited to join them!

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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Well I know what will happen soon....

He'll be visited by these guys late one night when he's alone. Black bagged and replaced. They don't just take out aliens you know.

One other problem. If he's inviting people to join him that means likely more than half the country would want to get out and get in with him. So how would that area hold 200,000,000 people? Imagine if they all paid like just 100 bucks to join. That would be a far better way to make money than those casinos thats for sure!



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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES

So again lets not derail the message here and move forward unless there is greater agendas at play...

Agreed.....


This Country is going in the wrong direction and regardless of which tribe or person or persons the question remains, What are the American People willing to do to get back the honor that it has lost? What is the United States Government Willing to do to continue the removal of our freedom and honor?


Would love to debate these questions in another thread that would not be considered off topic, as this thread is dealing with the claim the Lakota are currently in the act of seceding from the US.


Is this Tribe the catalyst needed for many to rise up and make a statement?


Could very well be, IF, this was an event that is happening right now. Now I'll grant you, and as I've said already in this thread, that if this happened I think it would be fantastic. The fact that what is being portrayed in the sourced article is not substantiated by any other source.. not even Lakota websites.. has me wondering if this event is really happening. However IF I am wrong, and I hope I am, then given the current state of emotions running so high in the US over so many different social issues then yes, it could very well be the catalyst needed to get Americans out of their collective funk and move them to action. But that would only happen if it was given the media attention that a seriously historic event like this would warrant, which would be a miracle.
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by r2d246
Well I know what will happen soon....

He'll be visited by these guys late one night when he's alone. Black bagged and replaced. They don't just take out aliens you know.

One other problem. If he's inviting people to join him that means likely more than half the country would want to get out and get in with him. So how would that area hold 200,000,000 people? Imagine if they all paid like just 100 bucks to join. That would be a far better way to make money than those casinos thats for sure!

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Fort Laramie Treaty Map


You're right, getting that many people in what hasn't been siphoned off would be tough to do.

The feds have already made a martyr out of Leonard Peltier, they probably don't want another one.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:12 PM
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I can take it seriously cause I will support any rebellion against this sold out nation. It is not America anymore. I would rather die in a rebellion than have to live here for the next what 50 years with people who share your thoughts.

Maybe you got old and tired and it's just easy to go along. That's what I am doing right now, but I wouldn't mind dieing either, for real.

You cannot say for sure how this would even play out. Americans could use it as an excuse to re-start a revolution if enough indians and white supporters were killed. It's a price I'd pay to ever see the America I was always told existed in books, but that I have never seen. I would also let them have the land as long as they signed over rights to the oil. Haha



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Well I know that the LAKOTA's would become pretty loud and very front page if they felt they were attacked. Something tells me that if they were going to silence him they would have done it some time ago.

It used to be that if you had a problem with the way things were then you just created your own party and tried to run for office or you were encouraged to "get out the vote", but more and more people feel that the voting system is rigged and that it is impossible to compete with the Propagandist News Agencies that help to manipulate truth. So if voting is rigged and parties are both workin for the same thing it leaves one with very few options... This is why I am really fascinated by this man and this tribe.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:21 PM
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Well, as you noted on the other thread about this..and my only real point here at all, this isn't the Indian Nations or even organized movement from a single Tribe within the Nations. It's ONE GUY and maybe even a few friends with delusions of grandeur.

I'm sincerely sorry my total and complete disrespect for the man the OP story is based on may have been taken as disrespect for an entire people. I'm certainly not too old and just getting along. In fact, very much the opposite, as it just happens but thats a whole different thread for some time in the distant future. lol... In this case, I think it's safe to say Montana and the other states are safely remaining a part of the Union and this guy's got the attention of every federal civilian agency that covers his corner of the world these days.

Here's hoping that someday, there is a movement with teeth and depth to bring awareness as more than a piece of trivia or passing note on the back page of newspapers.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES
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Well I know that the LAKOTA's would become pretty loud and very front page if they felt they were attacked. Something tells me that if they were going to silence him they would have done it some time ago.

It used to be that if you had a problem with the way things were then you just created your own party and tried to run for office or you were encouraged to "get out the vote", but more and more people feel that the voting system is rigged and that it is impossible to compete with the Propagandist News Agencies that help to manipulate truth. So if voting is rigged and parties are both workin for the same thing it leaves one with very few options... This is why I am really fascinated by this man and this tribe.


If one was that serious that they figured the US was that bad, then they should just try and get a duel citizen ship in another country. I think a good one would be France, or Costa Rica. I know you can buy some kind of book that tells you which countries offer the most freedom.

Joining the res would not be the way to go. Here's why. It's like painting a target on your back and letting everyone know that you don't agree with TPTB. the best way to hide in a crowd is to blend in, not try and stand out. If you have to get out, then do it for real, not half baked. Besides if TPTB aren't actually riding your azz right now then enjoy your freedom. For the most part your still free. And likely things won't get all that bad in our lifetime. It's gonna take a generation or two before things are really bad. So you got lots of time to just enjoy life without flying off the handle, and doing something really stupid that will make you stand out and get you in trouble. Don't invent yourself a problem so to speak.

What they're doing is infact a neet idea when you think about it, in light of his efforts I'm gonna add this video....

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Iamschist
I think anything that draws attention to the conditions of Native Americans in this country is a good thing. Our government has systematically tried to eradicate a culture and people, by any means possible. The abuse has not ended and continues to this day. I don't see this ending well, but I would like to see them take it to the courts. Unfortunately even Native Americans are divided on this issue.


Yeah including the original American culture of limited government and liberty no harm no crime. Apparently thats what government does destroys cultures to gather power unto itself.

I wish them well but there are two Lakota nations and the one Russell means is the figure head for is not the one the US government recognizes he has been at odds with the other for years. The tribal council of the other one is corrupt and in bed with the government so the Lakota people are divided. I doubt this will go anywhere but I hope I am wrong!

Also if they do anything violent the government will use that as an excuse to attack them just like Lincoln did to the South.

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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The tribal council of the other one is corrupt and in bed with the government.


Star for redundancy. And truth.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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I wish the Native Americans would do this in Canada. I am part Beothuk and I would certainly join a tribe of Cree, Algonquin, Iroquois, Mohawk, Montagnais or Naskapi or any other Native American Tribe local to Ontario/Eastern Canada (our family line has been here for more than 400 years on the European side plus a lot longer on the Demasduit/Beothuk side). Their belief system is in some ways similar to mine, in that we are simply stewards of the land, we should do as little damage as possible and leave this world a better place than we found it always thinking about the sustainability of our progeny seven generations forward.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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This ain't no rain dance. Let's not confuse the ceremonies. It's happening, and it's been in the works for a long time, right down to having our own money. Let the nay sayers say what they will, but we got more guts than anyone else in this country. At least we stand up and fight against what is wrong, even when some of our clans and tribes have little to lose. Sicangu oyate here! Russell said awhile back that the U.S. was now a reservation, because everyone is going broke, losing homes, jobs, etc.. Welcome to the rez.



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by Iamschist
I think anything that draws attention to the conditions of Native Americans in this country is a good thing. Our government has systematically tried to eradicate a culture and people, by any means possible. The abuse has not ended and continues to this day. I don't see this ending well, but I would like to see them take it to the courts. Unfortunately even Native Americans are divided on this issue.


Yeah including the original American culture of limited government and liberty no harm no crime. Apparently thats what government does destroys cultures to gather power unto itself.

I wish them well but there are two Lakota nations and the one Russell means is the figure head for is not the one the US government recognizes he has been at odds with the other for years. The tribal council of the other one is corrupt and in bed with the government so the Lakota people are divided. I doubt this will go anywhere but I hope I am wrong!

Also if they do anything violent the government will use that as an excuse to attack them just like Lincoln did to the South.

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I'm all for it. It's a stretch, and sure, we might be attacked, but we have been there before, and we can rise up again. There are a lot of corrupt people who will be ousted if shtf like back in the 70's. The thing is, the Lakota didn't do anything violent. All we did was take over a flippin church, and here come the feds. Cause you can't walk up on a parcel of land and say "This is mine now, this is where I take my stand". I will say this, they were so afraid of us. So very afraid.



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by LeSigh
I wish them well. I find this idea rather appealing, actually.
If I lived in the area I would seriously consider joining them.
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Me too. I have family in North and South Dakota, I wonder if moving there would make me eligible? Might well be worth checking into, actually I think I will



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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I see where everyone is saying 'this is happening' but there is nothing anywhere to back it up.

I would very much like to learn more about it and the process of joining them since i do fall within one of those
states they listed.

But after 1/2 hr search i have found nothing about it. Seems like a made up story, i'll have to ask some friends when i run into them within the next few weeks and see what they know from the rez.



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 12:47 AM
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how can someone join a Sioux tribe, if they are not Sioux....



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by Thunder heart woman
This ain't no rain dance. Let's not confuse the ceremonies. It's happening, and it's been in the works for a long time, right down to having our own money. Let the nay sayers say what they will, but we got more guts than anyone else in this country. At least we stand up and fight against what is wrong, even when some of our clans and tribes have little to lose. Sicangu oyate here! Russell said awhile back that the U.S. was now a reservation, because everyone is going broke, losing homes, jobs, etc.. Welcome to the rez.

Well, as others are finding, it's a rebellion of one and a few friends by any reasonable measure of trying to investigate more and discover what is happening. Secession in real terms, like happened in the United States to open the Civil War was a thing no one needed a newspaper to know happened and sure didn't need explained why. This doesn't show anything of substance to back it after concerted effort in looking.

If more links beyond this one guy can be located with what suggests a wider movement and greater number of people actively involved, I'll be wide open to the possibility...and maybe family I have living in 2 of those five states are just oblivious to whats happening around them....although I reserve the right to be skeptical.


This done in more than a purely theoretical way would be true international news and would have to also include consideration for trade into the future...so I'd assume, Canada has been consulted. I mean, if we're serious, these are serious issues that would come almost immediately and make or break such an effort. Canada is the only Non-American outlet for trade to sustain a fledgling new nation which, by this, wouldn't be the most friendly with Washington. Not at first, anyway. That area includes things considered to be of critical strategic national interest.

Hmmm..



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 01:09 AM
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I've been following the Lakota succession for a few years. The Indians were mad a year or two ago when US Army helicopters started landing on their land where long ago the US Army slaughtered the indians.

The Lakota have been contacting foreign governments to get those foreign countries to recognize they ain't part of America anymore.....Well they never WERE legally part of America anyways.

Those Indians will be slaughtered again. They're gonna soon be dead. There's a tiny portion brave enough to speak out and try to keep sovereign....they'll be dead soon.


If the Lakota wanted to rock the World, they'd announce they accept all the Palestinians and are forming a joint Palestinian State in America.....boy wouldn't that get them far more support? Going alone they'll never survive.



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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I'm going to research this before I go either way on the topic. First impressions though garner my support and pique my interests!



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 01:48 AM
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I'm in but I have to move.

I always wanted to be a Indian, and fight the fork toung white man.

I believe in the Indiand beliefs to The Great Wanktakin.

WAr Paint, now your talkin.



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by dayve
how can someone join a Sioux tribe, if they are not Sioux....


By becoming a Sioux... They invited you so they will accept you, but they don't need your baggage. (2007) and still, I am Sioux/Cherokee, and yet I am some random white guy, who is living like any American(poor) but anyway.

You can come join America and be American no matter where you are from. Think about it.





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