posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 04:58 AM
I love some of the responses this thread is bringing up. I think it shows a very clear divide between people who have the motivation and the smarts to
sort their lives out and those who want to be nannied.
And before you all come at me with a flamethrower....I DO NOT mean people who GENUINELY need assistance. The system is there for people who really are
not fit to work, and help should never be taken away from them. Any one of us could be in that same situation at any time, and need the same help...we
have to remember that. What I'm talking about here are people who have a sense of entitlement without any kind of contribution. Spongers if you like,
women who have baby after baby by god knows who, and that's their life, that's what they're teaching their daughters to do.
So.....there have been some very touching stories here, from real people who are intelligent and dignified enough to run their lives the right way up,
even if it means they don't have much. I've seen both sides of this argument very close to me, and it's not something I talk about readily,
because, to be honest, I'm kinda embarrassed that I didn't get out of it sooner.
The post I made about my ex's niece? Well, that stinky attitude of hers clearly runs in the family, as my ex was just the same. Made all the right
noises about wanting to work, but really only wanted to be an eternal student, never earning any money to help support us, racking up god knows how
much in student debt, and fleecing any organisation he could for as much money as he could. He even convinced his college, and his doctors, that he
should have disabled student status, even although his "disbility!" was back pain due to weighing 400lbs. The amount of money he got thrown at him
was insane...I mean thousands every year on top of his usual student loans. When I did eventually nag him into getting a part time job, on day
one...I'm not joking....he hurt his back again and was signed off for months. I had to drive him everywhere, and the funding and benefits kept coming
in, because he was smart enough to know how to talk the system. One particular incident that made me really angry, and is in hindsight the point where
I should have just walked out, me and the dog and the car. He got a chunk of money for some kind of injury compensation, and spent half or it
on.....AN INFLATABLE CANOE!!!! I swear to god I'm not making this up. Didn't pay any of the damn bills that I was having to cover...no...he wanted
his lifetime dream of owning a canoe, and let me just say this...the one and only time he used it, it sat very low in the water.............
People who weigh 400lbs don't get like that for any other reason except that they eat too much and don't move enough. Fact. I've seen it, and have
to live with it for years, and I guess you could argue it's a kind of mental illness, and that sense of entitlement again, but people like my ex who
are smart enough and tenacious enough to argue that they have a disability when they just don't will always get what they want.
I'm a little torn between my natural instinct to live simply, eat home food, not consume more than I need, work close to home, cut down or cut out
what I don't need or want, and almost a kind of grudged admiration for people who will work the system so ruthlessly. I work, admittedly not quite
full time, but I spend no money on fuel to get there, and have spent decades working 40-50-60-70 hours a week, so I think if I can afford to, I can
let up a little now. But I'm so damn careful with the cash that comes in... Everything is accounted for, budgeted for, planned, organised,
homecooked, repaired if I can, recycled, thrift store bought, anything I can think of. Very old fashioned housekeeping and money management...a
valuable skill that people just don't have to have any more. Obamaphone woman made me scream!! Do I admire her or do I hate her? I think really I
want to slap her, take away her phone and make her live on brown rice and beans for a month.
The thing is, I totally agree with a previous poster who said that even a cashier job is better than being in the welfare system. As soon as they have
us in the system, they have us, full stop. They may as well just own us outright. You might argue that working for not very much money is a kind of
slavery, and I would symathise with that sometimes, but I see it as freedom....total financial freedom, peace of mind, simplicity....I work, I pay
tax, I get paid cash, I pay the bills, my life is sweet.