posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 03:12 AM
I'd like to add to the thread from a slightly different POV, I'm unemployed and classed as unfit for work but before you all get the meat cleavers
out and head for me I HAVE worked and damn hard too, I left school, was on the dole (UK benefits) for 6 weeks, I hated it, I wanted to buy stuff and I
got my first job and worked from that year to the day I became unfit to work, I've worked longer than a lot of people on here have been alive.
I don't get any fancy high rates of incapacity allowance, I just get the basic money a job seeker gets, my wife is a carer which is a poorly paid
job. We also have a 12yr old daughter, we get by, its bloody hard, I don't like many work on the side, because of what is wrong with me (see my sig)
I'm a recluse but who are the government picking on with the change over in benefits, the mobs of lazy but fit 17+ yr olds or me, a 52 partially
This is where I come in line with you working people, I watch these people wander around day in day out dripping in gold and the latest designer ware,
they deal drugs, rob, they make no effort to work, I've been at the job centre when they come in, its all mobile phone while talking to the advisor
and actually saying "you can't make me BLEEPING work" and off they go yet you see them going down to the job office to sign on a few weeks
Then we have the supposed single parent families here, basically a routine passed down through the scum ranks, it goes like this, get up the duff,
have a child, try to get a flat off the council, didn't work then have another kid, flat then given and then claim as a single person while moving
the dad or the latest boyfriend in. When asked who the dad is they say "I can't remember I was drunk" or "he took off" or and I love this one
"I'm not telling you who he is".
Needless to say the house is lavished in all the latest tech, Sky full service, parties galore, drugs galore..
And the last type we have here are the religious millionaires, the ones that say because of their religion that they cannot say no to children, again
this is a tried and tested system used to avoid paying out of your own pocket. 7 - 10 kids later they have a super glam state property, the husband if
there is one does not work and the state gets to pay for every thing.
The link is that all these are manufactured products, people who are following a system that has worked for family and friends before, its tried and
And before I get any nonsense for suggesting I'm pointing at Muslim people can I make two points, my in-laws are Muslims (I'm not but they still
love me to bits) and a genuine Muslim is bound by the Quran to only take on wives and children they can afford to support as the man, HE must support,
not anyone else!
So there we have it, age old systems developed and abused by many while others suffer, sadly they only do it because they can, it seems governments
are too lazy to identify the leeches, we should think seriously about limiting the number of children that get paid for on benefits, yes its a radical
idea but we have to get to the notion of "If you can't feed them then don't breed them", young people SHOULD be made to do some sort of work for
their money, young women who refuse or simply don't know who the dad is should be made to stay with their family and not given free housing for
getting up the duff early.
I'm sorry but the excuses like "I was drunk", "my man does not like to use condoms", "its against my religion" should not be valid in this day
and age. Young and dumb is not an excuse and should not be rewarded.
But you say, you are claiming benefits, well yes I am but I paid in for a damn long time, I don't cheat the system and I hate being dependant on it
and if it makes anyone feel better its the likes of me who the DWP attack first (and are at the moment), same as the old and badly incapacitated, the
first in the attack while all the usual suspects walk around fiddling the system to the max.
I feel so damn sorry for the people who pay tax and see their money frittered away by politicians too gutless to plug the gaps and too crooked to stop
helping themselves, I feel sorry for tax payers watching the system being stripped bare by frauds indigenous or not, I feel sorry for those paying tax
because the presure is being put on YOU to work harder and longer to pay for these people.
The system stinks....Get us out of he EU, shut the doors and lets start weeding out ALL the cheats, British or not, all colours and creeds. Lets make
it right for ALL those paying tax, a thief has no religion or colour, be they born here or not they are still thieves. I say this because I've
actually heard people here say "well I was born here I deserve to get some of the action", sorry mate, you don't!