Originally posted by helen670
sorry if i came across too abrupt.........
You didn't. You came across like the average uneducated islam-hating christian.
The Teachings of Muhammed does not appeal to me because '''Islam'' hates Infidels (that is what muslims call us)..........Christianity is based
on Love......even Love your enemies.........
Wrong, but why am I not surprised?
The "infidels" are NOT christians. They are pagan arab tribes (over 300 of them) that attacked Muhammed (peace be upon him) and the religion he was
preaching (islam). The infidels are not
"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt
thou find those who say, 'We are Christians': because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are
" - The Qur'an 5:82
I kindly advised you to not learn about Islam from ANTI-ISLAM sites or about Christianity from ANTI-CHRISTIANITY sites, because you will learn
absolutely nothing, period. That is what a true Christian will do, instead of trying to attack one's beliefs.
Islam uses the excuse of '''Jihad''' to get their point across...........
I've already explained the concept of Jihad to you (or tried to), but perhaps you have a learning disability.
I would rather be a slave to Jesus Christ my God .....then beleive in the teachings of Muhammed........
I assume (not sure) that you have studied a bit of Islam and know that we Muslims do not believe that Jesus' (peace be upon him) words are actually
his in the bible.
That is why we do not believe the following for example;
"So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I
will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to
your deeds." - Revelation 2:22-23
(jesus peace be upon him to kill innocent children of someone who commited adultery)
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his
father; a daughter against her mother; a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A man's enemies will be the members of his own household." -
"That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one
who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded;
and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." - Luke 12:47-48
I'm - again - advising you to analyze both religions, and not ANTI-*specificreligion* sources. I'll remind you of this as many times as it takes.
I would die confessing Jesus Christ as the one true God .......Father Son and Holy Spirit.............
According to your bible, Jesus is not God.
"So Jesus said, 'When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but
speak just what the Father has taught me.'" - John 8:28
"For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me." - John 6:38
"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father
is greater than I." - John 14:28
"'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good except God alone.'" - Mark 10:18
I could list more, but why bother? lol
Oh and.. you're believing in Trinity, a word that does not even ONCE exist in the bible, and a concept that is entirely man-made.
Since you always keep linking me to anti-islamic sources, I will link you to an article called "Who Invented the Trinity?"
Orthodox Christians suffered much with the muslims.....pregnant women were slaughtered in front of their children because they did not confess to the
teachings of Muhammed.........their stomachs were torn open...........Allah was the name that had to be said, if you wanted to live............
..which was absolutely against
Please do your homework, I asked you kindly to take my advice, it would benefit you more than anybody else.
"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we
associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear
witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to God's Will).'" - The Qur'an, 3:64
But... if you want stomachs ripped open, I suggest you open the Bible.
"The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be
dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." - Hosea 13:16
Feel the love yet?
You always seem to ignore parts of my replies, and only quote that which you can respond to. I however, refute your entire post.
Am i angry...........Yes i am.......do i have hatred for the muslims.......no i dont.............
The difference with the orthodox Christians is that forgiveness is Love........and Love is in Jesus Christ as the one true God ...........
Yes, you very angry that's true. You also have hatred against muslims, why else would you get information from biased sources and let me refute each
and every single post of yours?
Again you're contradicting yourself, Jesus (peace be upon him) in your Bible, separated himself from God Almighty.
Now, I've already posted one or two verses contradicting your statement that Jesus (pbuh) in your Bible is pure love.
Slave..........we are all slaves ........i choose to be a slave of God........in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.........
You choose to be a slave of God, that's fine I guess... but... the Bible speaks about Masters, not God, but masters, and beating a slave, and
Children playing with their slaves like toys, and Slaves being the Masters' property with control of their lives.
Again (7th time), do real research.
" .. and if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know
any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you .. " - The Qur'an 24:33
Jesus Christ and Muhammad.
Which.. Jesus (pbuh) in the corrupt Bible or in the Qur'an?
Let us look at their lives, what they both said and more importantly what they did.
Which one of the two was forgiving, a peacemaker, kind, magnanimous?
Which one would you trust more to be your friend? Which one was self-serving?
Which one gave of himself and even his life for others? It is a relatively simple comparison, and the differences are obvious from their respective
Pick ONE source of both, (bible, qur'an, etc), and I will debate. I cannot do this if we're talking about 2 contradicting sources.
Which one of the two was interested in earthly power, a legalistic worldly empire, many wives and concubines? (in the Quran, Muhammad blesses the
union of a man with four wives, except for himself, where he is blessed to have eight). Did Muhammad love his enemies or kill them?
Again, Helen, I never thought I'd say this to a Christian, but are indeed very naive (or seem so).
take the Jesus from your Bible and analyze him with Muhammed (pbuh) from the Qur'an. They are two completely different things.
But to answer your question: neither
" .. marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one
(a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
" - The Qur'an 4:3
Shall I also remind you that saying "JESUS IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR" is an insult to God according to your Bible?
Please look at my signature, but I will repost it for you here.
"I, even I, am the LORD. Beside me there is no saviour." - Isaiah 43:11
And that.. my Christian friend, is the Truth.
[Edited on 2-5-2003 by another_one]