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Originally posted by pepsi78
I dont belive that.
Like you say they are curios but things can go rong, they can understand it diferent and turn out diferent.
Well yes you never seen them.
It does not happen every day, but it hapens, it does not have to hapen to you, what are you god?
It will hapen at random with random people sometimes you dont see everything.
And with the where it would hapen that would be in public, regular people kiss in publlic so gay people would do so too.
how is that to say that it's not fetish , that homosexuality is not fetish
Well doing the cow is sex isnt it?
So how do you separate 2 events that are the same in acts.
There are people that were violent as kids and when they grew up they became calmer.
There are people that were picked upon when they were little and they became violent , it's all related to the growning up factor.
People can change that is for sure.
Ps do you think people in prison doing what they do , do you think it's genetic too When all the sudden they decide to make some guy his girl.
Picking up the sope I dont see any genetics there.
People can become gay in many ways, prison is one of them.
And about the recivers in your brain, they can be influenced as well.
It's alll about teaching and geting it right from the begining.
What do you do if your son that has 6 years old comes and ask you, "what is that father?"
Boys become sexual active early.
BE honest with us and tell us when did you start you know what 5?
There are people that sustain" never done it" I belive you are one of them.
It's Just like smoking "it's a bad thing" but you do tell your kids about it dont you.
Just like that you can begin telling them in a lighter form , so they can make the right choice, you dont need to get in to details till later when they are older but you got to tell them in a way so you know it will set them on the right road, so he will get a sort of the picture but not all and has he grows up bit by bit you can tell him more.
This si very important, most parents evoid such conversations.
Just like with math and studys you work with your kids on it they do good.
But one thing is left out and we let our kids lose we dont tell them anithing about it and before we know they turn gay or they go on rapeing girls or who knows what.
It's all about being ignorant , some are profiting from it.
There is a gay agenda, not made by gay people but by people out side the gay circle.
It's in their intrest to see as many gay as posible, it's a blessing for them.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
My point is that attraction is beyond one's control. Behavior is not beyond one's control. You may apply your own analogies as you choose, but I believe that my point is correct. Society is largely founded on the latter.
Neither was I aware of what straight people did - sexuality was never discussed where I grew up - I went to a private Christian school, went to I
Once I was allowed to be part of the older kid's "clique", I eventually saw some of those VCR tapes, and I knew what the guys were looking at - they talked about it, pointed out how it looked and how good it would feel to "get in that" - But I was not interested in the lady's body, I was intrigued by what I saw on the guy. I liked his shape, where the hair was, the muscles and the way they changed shape while he was doing his thing to that lady.
People pretend to be straight when they are afraid of what real straight people will do to them when/if they find out.
You like being feared? I'd hope not.
Though to stay on topic I will add, of course they exist but so do agendas....homosexual ones, evangelical ones, atheist ones, animal rights ones, and even heterosexual homophobic ones!
People have got to stop ignorantly judging masses of people by a few who associate themselves with or can be identified with. Can people please understand that
For example-I am very heterosexual. Nothing anyone could do or say from the opposite sex could change that... (and a few have tried )however, being hetero, and even in believing there is an actual "homosexual agenda" doesn't mean that I should be identified with the "homophobic sexist cokeheads" (sorry, thats really just a song title and I couldn't resist) but seriously, just because I am hetero and believe there is a homosexual agenda doesn't mean I think all homosexuals are *IN* on that agenda, any more than I am in on some gay bashing one.
I think people miss this point. and I want to make it clear for two reasons:
1. this thread is about the homosexual agenda-and I think it should be pointed out though it exists it is not representing the agenda of all gays!
2. someone (ahem) who believes in agendas-even in the possibility of the/a "homosexual agenda" does not make that person an ignorant homophobic gay basher
3. to think it is wrong, biased, prejudiced, or politically incorrect to speak of a homosexual agenda, but discuss theories of otehr possible agendas or conspiracies is ignorant. Any group however that group is identified will have some within them with a cause...be it the majority or the minority well organized or rebells without reason, and if people can't accept that-even in their own politics, religion, sexual orientation, etc-that to me is blind ignorance
I could write books about what you’ve said. Thankfully others have already done it. I suggest you start with the ones about a big red dog and his big red ball. I hear the corners are chewable and it’s completely machine washable.
Many laymen now believe that homosexuality is part of who a person really is from the moment of conception.
The "genetic and unchangeable" theory has been actively promoted by gay activists and the popular media. Is homosexuality really an inborn and normal variant of human nature?
No. There is no evidence that shows that homosexuality is simply "genetic." And none of the research claims there is. Only the press and certain researchers do, when speaking in sound bites to the public
Scientists Know the Truth about "Gay Gene" Research
But before we consider the specifics, here is what serious scientists think about recent genetics-of-behavior research. From Science, 1994:
Time and time again, scientists have claimed that particular genes or chromosomal regions are associated with behavioral traits, only to withdraw their findings when they were not replicated. "Unfortunately," says Yale's [Dr. Joel] Gelernter, "it's hard to come up with many" findings linking specific genes to complex human behaviors that have been replicated. "...All were announced with great fanfare; all were greeted unskeptically in the popular press; all are now in disrepute."
Washington, DC – A trio of psychologists associated with the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) have just published a startling report that debunks one of the major foundations of the homosexual movement: That homosexuals are "born gay." The report quotes noted "gay" scientists as well as "gay" philosophers who openly admit there is no research proving there is a "gay gene" or "gay brain."
Originally posted by kegs
Yet again Pepsi, you prove to be comic relief.
You weren’t hired by Disney to sponsor this thread or anything were you?
That umm.. example of err…esteemed learned research from the institute of the umm…“National Association of research & therapy of homosexuality” was both educational as well as arse creasingly hysterical.
I know you meant the former, but the latter was seriously unavoidable.
Yeah! That link’s much better. I think you should give the homosex potpourri a shot.
Whatever the hell that is.
Originally posted by kegs
Subjects like this hardly need links unless there is undeniable proof of something. It's not news; It's a social question, and sometimes social philosophy (ie politics) with a hefty smattering of religion. It’s not about anything that can be proved with a link.
TV? I deliberately watch very little TV.
I'll keep barking and you can continue professing the need for a better literacy program and well stocked libraries.
Originally posted by forestlady
How can genuine love between 2 consenting adults ever be wrong???