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Originally posted by Kashai
reply to post by ubeenhad
And I refuse to respond to yours unless you admit you are an idiot for suggesting otherwise
With exception of what is below.
The Universe as created 13.7 billion years ago is any where in size from 40 to 185 billion light years in circumference. Clearly there is more space and that is what the mass of the universe is expanding into.
Then of course there is the matter of what it expanded into during the big bang and subsequent expansion at faster than, that of light.
Are you having a problem with that?
Any thoughts?
PS:You do not seem to understand the fundamentals of Physics, this is what is making your responses so inadequate.edit on 1-10-2012 by Kashai because: Added content
Originally posted by Kashai
reply to post by ubeenhad
Ovbiouly your opinion is irrelevant, otherwise you would not be so reactive. Unconsiously, you see the flaw in it and therefore react rather than explain in discussion.
Matter and energy is another form of space-time, after all where else would the Strange Quarks go????
Any thoughts?edit on 1-10-2012 by Kashai because: modified content
Originally posted by ubeenhad
The distance between ALL objects not gravitationally bound to each other gets larger over time. That is it. There is nothing that says that space is moving anywhere, or expanding into anything else, or anything like that. The universe isn't expanding into itself or anything else. Objects are moving away from other things without getting closer to anything.
d(t)=a(t)d0(missing notation because of characters)
Where d(t) is the distance to some other object, say, a quasar. Now, d0 is the distance at some earlier time. a(t) is the scale factor, it tells us how much larger the distance in between you and the other quasar is now, compared to before. In time, the scale factor gets larger and larger. the distance in between any two objects is getting bigger. Thats all we have for proven inflation. There is no observation or otherwise evidence of any properties of ANYthing outside of our expanding universe. Space has properties, and without them, ITS NOT SPACE. There is no proof of any property "outside" of space.
edit on 1-10-2012 by ubeenhad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kashai
Originally posted by ubeenhad
The distance between ALL objects not gravitationally bound to each other gets larger over time. That is it. There is nothing that says that space is moving anywhere, or expanding into anything else, or anything like that. The universe isn't expanding into itself or anything else. Objects are moving away from other things without getting closer to anything.
d(t)=a(t)d0(missing notation because of characters)
Where d(t) is the distance to some other object, say, a quasar. Now, d0 is the distance at some earlier time. a(t) is the scale factor, it tells us how much larger the distance in between you and the other quasar is now, compared to before. In time, the scale factor gets larger and larger. the distance in between any two objects is getting bigger. Thats all we have for proven inflation. There is no observation or otherwise evidence of any properties of ANYthing outside of our expanding universe. Space has properties, and without them, ITS NOT SPACE. There is no proof of any property "outside" of space.
edit on 1-10-2012 by ubeenhad because: (no reason given)
So inflation is proven to expand the distance between objects.....are there expansionist fairies that sprinkle magical powder to allow for this expansion? One conclusion is that when virtual particles interact, the energy generated as a whole results in expansion. of the Universe as a whole.
Bringing up strange quarks brings up a non-random effect.
Virtual Particles are random, only in relation to our limited ability to perceive.
Any thoughts?
Originally posted by ubeenhad
Originally posted by Kashai
Originally posted by ubeenhad
The distance between ALL objects not gravitationally bound to each other gets larger over time. That is it. There is nothing that says that space is moving anywhere, or expanding into anything else, or anything like that. The universe isn't expanding into itself or anything else. Objects are moving away from other things without getting closer to anything.
d(t)=a(t)d0(missing notation because of characters)
Where d(t) is the distance to some other object, say, a quasar. Now, d0 is the distance at some earlier time. a(t) is the scale factor, it tells us how much larger the distance in between you and the other quasar is now, compared to before. In time, the scale factor gets larger and larger. the distance in between any two objects is getting bigger. Thats all we have for proven inflation. There is no observation or otherwise evidence of any properties of ANYthing outside of our expanding universe. Space has properties, and without them, ITS NOT SPACE. There is no proof of any property "outside" of space.
edit on 1-10-2012 by ubeenhad because: (no reason given)
So inflation is proven to expand the distance between objects.....are there expansionist fairies that sprinkle magical powder to allow for this expansion? One conclusion is that when virtual particles interact, the energy generated as a whole results in expansion. of the Universe as a whole.
Bringing up strange quarks brings up a non-random effect.
Virtual Particles are random, only in relation to our limited ability to perceive.
Any thoughts?
THATS the problem. Your way to smart to listen to those silly guys with PH.Ds!
As long as we are establishing that im on the side of the silly physicists and your on the side of pseudoscience that has not been rigorously tested or made any predictions.
So now me, and the science community dont know what we are talking about.edit on 1-10-2012 by ubeenhad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kashai
Something came from nothing actually makes sense if everything did not have something in it....
Finding a thing with nothing would actually be something, taking what we know about reality into consideration.
Any thoughts?
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
But you are looking in the wrong places for whatever inner Demons you have. By tomorrow I will be getting ready to make a DEAL with people who do not like us all that much...but they are people who use others to gain. We are giving them a choice...take the deal...or there will be issues! Split Infinity
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
But you are looking in the wrong places for whatever inner Demons you have. By tomorrow I will be getting ready to make a DEAL with people who do not like us all that much...but they are people who use others to gain. We are giving them a choice...take the deal...or there will be issues! Split Infinity
I hope its not some deal with reptillians coming from someone who does not know the earth is hollow.
I was trying to have a serious discussion with you to find out why you believe disclosure is such a bad thing, but all you give me is cryptic nonsense...and then you wonder why I get mad. Or the constant use of capital letters(called shouting) in your posts.
Someone who believes bob lazar is a traitor that should be shot for national security reasons really does not know what they are talking about. I tried to explain my reasoning to you several times but you don't even seem to care.
Originally posted by ubeenhad
THATS the problem. Your way to smart to listen to those silly guys with PH.Ds!
As long as we are establishing that im on the side of the silly physicists and your on the side of pseudoscience that has not been rigorously tested or made any predictions.
So now the rest of the science community and me, don't know what we are talking about.edit on 1-10-2012 by ubeenhad because: (no reason given)edit on 1-10-2012 by ubeenhad because: (no reason given)edit on 1-10-2012 by ubeenhad because: (no reason given)
Hard questions.
There isn't an answer for that yet. As far as we know you cant have a vaccum without space, cause thats what a vaccum is, space in its lowest energy form. Basically the closest you can get to "no action"
Originally posted by spy66
What he is saying above is not write. A vacuum is a volume of space with matter inside it. The reason a volume of space becomes a vacuum is because of a the presence of matter in a space that is absolutely neutral.
What ever matter you can think of no matter what it is. It will never be absolutely neutral like the space it exists in.
A absolutely neutral space have no energy, matter, temperature or motion.
Does a space like this exist? yest it does. Because all matter take up space. Energies no matter what it is need a source that takes up space to create this energy. Energy also need a void to move through.
Energy is not infinite because energy expand. Have motion. This should tell you that infinite space can not be made up of just matter and energies, but a totally different void/space. Which energy expands within.
edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)
A region of space is called a vacuum if it does not contain any matter, though it can contain physical fields
en.wikipedia.org...
Vacuum is space that is empty of matter
en.wikipedia.org...