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Originally posted by ahnggk
The Earth is a living thing.
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
Its funny, when we talk about this at work, no one thinks that the changes taking place are anything but a natural cycle of the earth.
We have had ice ages over and over. We warm, we cool, we warm again.
Man had nothing to do with the other cycles but somehow we want to take this on as our fault. The earth obviously has cycles and we are in a warming one right now. My car didnt do it and neither did yours.
Originally posted by Phage
You can get the Proceedings from the conference here:
geocataclysm.org...
As far as "Earth changes" goes, this seems to be covered by a single article from the conference. The article is titled GLOBAL GEOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE: THREATENING THE STABLE DEVELOPMENT OF CIVILIZATION and is by E.N. Khalilov. He seems to be attempting to tie a bunch of stuff together with some unknown thing that happened in 1998.
1. Magnetic poles’ drift acceleration
2. Anomalous J2 coefficient change
3. Global sea level change
4. Global tropospheric temperature change
5. An increase in large earthquakes
6. An increase in volcanic eruptions
7. An increase in tsunamis
8. An increase in floods in the US
9. An increase in tornadoes in the US
10. An increase in hurricanes and storms in the Atlantic
11. An increase in forest fires in the US
It seems that most of those items are debatable. His chart for earthquakes of magnitude 6.5 and greater from 1978 to 2010 seems to be inaccurate.
E.N. Khalilov is involved with some sort of "out there" stuff. He using some sort of crystal based detection system to try to predict earthquakes but he doesn't seem to be sure exactly what the detectors detect.
seismonet.org...
The rest of the articles from the conference seem to deal with disaster forecasting and mitigation.
edit on 9/28/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Democratising Global Governance:
The Challenges of the World Social Forum
by
Francesca Beausang
ABSTRACT
This paper sums up the debate that took place during the two round tables organized by UNESCO within the first World Social Forum in Porto Alegre (25/30 January 2001). It starts with a discussion of national processes, by examining democracy and then governance at the national level. It first states a case for a "joint" governance based on a combination of stakeholder theory, which is derived from corporate governance, and of UNESCO's priorities in the field of governance. As an example, the paper investigates how governance can deviate from democracy in the East Asian model. Subsequently, the global dimension of the debate on democracy and governance is examined, first by identification of the characteristics and agents of democracy in the global setting, and then by allusion to the difficulties of transposing governance to the global level.
Susanne Posel
Occupy Corporatism
July 5, 2012
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) are focusing on population control through their Global Health Development Programs. By using citizens in under-developed nations, like Africa and India, was Guinea pigs for their research and development for “new interventions such as vaccines, drugs and diagnostics”, these globalists hope to ensure their family planning schemes are effective.
Melinda Gates has made family planning and the population control agenda her personal mission . She justifies her cause by claiming that 100,000 women die in child birth from unintended pregnancies. Although this statistic has no scientific basis, since it sounds good and mainstream media do not check facts, it has helped the BMGF team up with the British government to raise more than $4 billion to fun depopulation programs under the guise of bringing contraceptives to under-developed nations.
The BMGF assert that by 2050 “the global population is expected to grow to over 9 billion people” and this is unacceptable to them. By applying pressure to social programs and resources, the BMGF want to use family planning as an investment for all national governments globally.
Strategies to accomplish their goals include:
Using financial influence to force governments and policymakers to implement their family planning schemes
Empower NGOs who promote family planning propaganda
Coerce the integration of family planning into all “humanitarian” efforts by using funds from the UN Global Fund
Pour money into efforts that further family planning through national policy controls that adhere to the UN’s Millennium Development Goals
BMGF has partnered with drug corporations like Shanghai Dahua Pharmaceuticals in China to develop implantable fertility controls that will be used in over 20 developing countries to curb population growth.
The injectable Depo-Provera is being sold to under-developed nations and being administered by healthcare workers and nonmedical providers, or by the women themselves. Policy and training systems are underway to ensure these drugs are utilized in areas like the sub-Saharan Africa. By using these areas as testing grounds for new fertility drugs, as well as forcible sterilization schemes, the BMGF are focusing on preventative situations over dealing with abortable pregnancies which become complicated.
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Originally posted by Phage
You can get the Proceedings from the conference here:
geocataclysm.org...
As far as "Earth changes" goes, this seems to be covered by a single article from the conference. The article is titled GLOBAL GEOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE: THREATENING THE STABLE DEVELOPMENT OF CIVILIZATION and is by E.N. Khalilov. He seems to be attempting to tie a bunch of stuff together with some unknown thing that happened in 1998.
1. Magnetic poles’ drift acceleration
2. Anomalous J2 coefficient change
3. Global sea level change
4. Global tropospheric temperature change
5. An increase in large earthquakes
6. An increase in volcanic eruptions
7. An increase in tsunamis
8. An increase in floods in the US
9. An increase in tornadoes in the US
10. An increase in hurricanes and storms in the Atlantic
11. An increase in forest fires in the US
It seems that most of those items are debatable. His chart for earthquakes of magnitude 6.5 and greater from 1978 to 2010 seems to be inaccurate.
E.N. Khalilov is involved with some sort of "out there" stuff. He using some sort of crystal based detection system to try to predict earthquakes but he doesn't seem to be sure exactly what the detectors detect.
seismonet.org...
The rest of the articles from the conference seem to deal with disaster forecasting and mitigation.
edit on 9/28/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)
The proposed explanation is that planet positions disperse electricity from the galactic centre to the planets from its course to the sun, so Earth's magma is charged and is rising its disturbance).
The magnetic field of a galaxy -- although not strong in comparison to that of the Earth, which is approximately 5.0 × 10-5 T (50 µT) -- can gradually act on the dust particles and cause their rotational axes to line up so that their short axes are parallel to the direction of the field which is in turn aligned with the Milky Way band and the galactic plane. This pattern is confirmed by polarization measurements.
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alternatively, if the GC is the cloud that is foreground to α Cen, the similar values for N(H0) in the GC components toward α Cen and 36 Oph indicate this cloud is entirely contained within the nearest ~1.3 pc, and the Ca+ GC data toward α Oph would then imply a cloud volume density of ~5 cm-3, with dramatic consequences for the heliosphere in the near future
Originally posted by rickymouse
The article includes the Manmade influence as one of it's variables. I don't see it as anything denying that man has not done anything. Too much mining can be creating a problem also but no scientist wants to address that issue. Mining of certain things effects the geomagnetics of the planet. Not all mines are bad, some actually could help the planet. The mining companies have lots of power in this world.edit on 28-9-2012 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)
Yes? What is your point? Do you think it unusual that a strong earthquake is recorded at a great distance?
Here`s what a seismograph in Germany "painted" of the great earthquake in San Francisco, which happened 1906:
Actually there were 13 in the twentieth century but using centuries as an arbitrary time period can be misleading. Let's play that game another way...
I`ve counted the earthquakes in the list, that happened during the whole 20. century, that were 12.
And in the 21. century there have already been 6 earthquakes of that magnitude.
That speaks for itself.
The proposed explanation is that planet positions disperse electricity from the galactic centre to the planets from its course to the sun, so Earth's magma is charged and is rising its disturbance).
What does that have to do with "electricity from the galactic centre" affecting magma? Magma is not magnetic (see "Curie point"). Never mind the fact that gravity is a far stronger force within the Earth than the galactic magnetic field.
Here`s something about the magnetic field of galaxies:
That field also acts upon interstellar dustclouds, which can be dangerous:
From your source:
It is nowadays known, that our heliosphere could already be interacting with the G cloud:
en.wikipedia.org...
The Solar System is thought to have entered the Local Interstellar Cloud at some time between 44,000 and 150,000 years ago and is expected to remain within it for another 10,000 to 20,000 years.
Abortion has become so accepted that now the elites want to even allow parents and the state to murder children who will be born even if they have no health problems.
Electric ice a shock to the solar system
While claims that ice XI may exist naturally in Antarctica have yet to be verified, astronomers have long suspected that it hangs out in the outer solar system.
But ice XI turns out to be hard to kill. Tiny flecks of the stuff embedded in ordinary ice can help convert all of it to electric ice
. WHERE CLOUDS COLLIDE
5.1. The “Ring of Fire” Around the G Cloud
Figure 19 shows the projected morphologies of all 15 clouds, which collectively cover
more than 90% of the sky. The LIC and G Clouds clearly dominate the sky, and contain
– 16 –
large areas where one or the other is the only absorber along the line of sight. At the
boundaries of the LIC and G clouds, several overlapping absorbers are typically present,
particularly near l from 40◦ to 80◦ and b from –15◦ to +30◦, as well as near l from 270◦
to 320◦ and b from +20◦ to +50◦ and from –70◦ to –30◦. These areas at the boundaries
of the LIC and G clouds may be dynamical interaction zones, which produce “new” clouds
with significantly different kinematic properties. We refer to the active boundary of the G
Cloud where the G and LIC clouds may be colliding as the “Ring of Fire”, in analogy to
the Pacific Ocean “Ring of Fire” where dominant tectonic plates (here interstellar clouds)
interact, resulting in a highly dynamic interaction zone that gives rise to earthquakes and
volcanos (here interstellar shocks, heating, or turbulent flows).
Originally posted by sealing
I have no idea whether Earth is alive as an entity;
But I will certainly not jump on the band wagon
of it's just a rock with stuff growing on it.
That's presumptive to say the least.
It's also presumptive to say there are 8
planets orbiting and that's that.
There could be another planet or two out there on
eccentric orbits.Hell, we aren't entirely certain
our star system isn't binary.
And no I am not a Nibiru believer,
but the absoluteness of some of these comments
are as reckless as saying we are going to be smashed by a rouge planet.
Who here knows with certainty what's going on in the Earths core?
Anyone?