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posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Hello everyone!

For more than 1 year I`ve been searching for confirmation given by scientists about the fact, that some big change is going on within our earth´s core and at least in our nearer part of our solar system, wow, I finally found it!

Here`s the link:
www.2011.geocataclysm.org...

And here are some citations out of the scientists` text:


1. Participants of the World Forum – International Congress GEOCATACLYSM-2011 state that the continuing trend of global change in the geological and geophysical parameters of the Earth and near-earth space, acceleration of the growth rate of the number and energy of natural disasters, global changes observed throughout the Earth including its core, mantle, lithosphere, hydrosphere, atmosphere, ionosphere and magnetosphere represent a serious threat to the sustainable development of humanity.



5. The geological life of our planet have repeatedly witnessed periods of a significant increase in endogenous and exogenous activity and another such period, as shown by many natural indicators, has already begun.



Okay, wait a moment, did they really say, that there are changes going on in our earth`s core, our ionosphere and magnetosphere and so on threatening humanity?

And did they state, that there were periods of, eh, something like decreasing of natural population caused by those changes, and that we have come into such a period?

Yes, and by the way, that would mean, that the reasons for those changes mainly aren`t man-made!

I nearly can`t believe that there are scientists who tell us the truth.

Thanks to those brave scientists! NASA looks very pale besides them!!!!!

Here`s a list of the leading scientists of that Association:



Members of Presidium of the World Forum:

Honorary Chairman of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Franz Halberg, Honorary Director of the Halberg Chronobiology Center, University of Minnesota (Minneapolis, US)

Honorary Co-Chairman of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Nikolay Laverov, Vice President of the Russian Academy of Sciences, President of the National Center for Development of Innovative Technologies (Moscow, Russia)

Honorary Co-Chairman of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Walter Kofler, President of the International Academy of Science Health and Ecology (Innsbruck, Austria)

Chairman of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Elchin Khalilov, Chairman of the International Committee on Global Geological and Environmental Change (Munich, Germany), Director General of the Scientific Research Institute for Prognosis and Studying of Earthquakes (Baku, Azerbaijan)

Co-Chairman of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Atta-ur-Rahman, President of the Pakistan Academy of Sciences, Coordinator General of the Committee on Science and Technology of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (Islamabad, Pakistan)

Co-Chairman of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Ahmet Bulut, Vice-Rector of the “Ondokuz Mayıs” University (Samsun, Turkey)

Chairman of the Scientific Committee of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Vitaly Starostenko, Director of the Institute of Geophysics of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine (Kiev, Ukraine)

Co-Chairman of the Scientific Committee of the World Forum:

Prof. Dr. Cengiz Toklu, Head of Civil Engineering Department of Yeditepe University (Istanbul, Turkey)

Co-Chairman of the “Health Care” Section of the World Forum:

Yoshihiko Watanabe MD, Ph.D., Assistant professor, Head of Department of Tokyo Women’s Medical University (Tokyo, Japan)

Co-Chairman of the Section “Cosmic-terrestrial relations, chronobiology, BIOCOS program”:

Prof. Dr. Abdullah Alabdulgader, General Director of the Prince Sultan Cardiac Center (Al Ahsa, Saudi Arabia)


I wonder what they mean, when they mention the earth-near space as one of the causing factors. Perhaps we can discuss about that, maybe we can carry together some assumptions.
Cause, I mean, when there are going on some changes in the earth-near space, and if they are one of the reasons for the earth changes, maybe they are the main reason.

edit on 10/1/2012 by semperfortis because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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Oh, excuse me, I`ve forgotten to choose the right forum, and the headline isn`t complete, perhaps it was too long, I`ve already contacted the moderators!



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Your link doesn't work. It automatically changes the http address to google.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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When I press upon it within my opening post, I come to the geocatalysm world forum, and that`s the right place.
That wonders me.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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Here it is once more:

www.2011.geocataclysm.org...



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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For more than 1 year I`ve been searching for confirmation given by scientists about the fact, that some big change is going on within our earth´s core and at least in our nearer part of our solar system, wow, I finally found it!

Since the conference supposedly occurred a year ago I guess you weren't searching very hard.

The results?

More than 200 presentations of the Congress participants were heard, dedicated to various topical problems of reducing risks and negative effects of natural disasters.
www.2011.geocataclysm.org...

Not really anything like what was listed.
edit on 9/28/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Xquizit
Your link doesn't work. It automatically changes the http address to google.


It works just fine for me, why dont you cut the address from the link and paste it into your browser address bar that normally works when things are buggy.

Just to add ive not read it myself yet so no comment on the material, just thought id help with the link



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by aboriginee
 




For more than 1 year I`ve been searching for confirmation given by scientists about the fact, that some big change is going on within our earth´s core and at least in our nearer part of our solar system, wow, I finally found it!

Since the conference supposedly occurred a year ago I guess you weren't searching very hard.

The results?

More than 200 presentations of the Congress participants were heard, dedicated to various topical problems of reducing risks and negative effects of natural disasters.
www.2011.geocataclysm.org...

Not really anything like what was listed.
edit on 9/28/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Well Phage it would be hard to officially list something that is not officially understood anyway.

We still can not be sure about much in regards to cycles of "space weather" for lack of a better term.

We can not possibly know all that much about the cycles of the sun we have been measuring for a period of time that us virtually nonexistent when compared to a star, we have no idea what we can possibly pass through on the way around a galaxy, could there be gravitational fluctuations, areas where space bends, denser zones of particulates what role does dark matter play? Even theories like planet X, even if there is no such thing there are countless planets loose zipping around our solar system could run right through the path of one seemingly randomly, cycles of activity within the Earth... I don't think we could even remotely yet predict when a hot spot might just turn off or another will appear under the crust somewhere else...

So how could they ever list... speculation



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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For more than 1 year I`ve been searching for confirmation given by scientists about the fact, that some big change is going on within our earth´s core and at least in our nearer part of our solar system, wow, I finally found it!

Since the conference supposedly occurred a year ago I guess you weren't searching very hard.

The results?

More than 200 presentations of the Congress participants were heard, dedicated to various topical problems of reducing risks and negative effects of natural disasters.
www.2011.geocataclysm.org...

Not really anything like what was listed.
edit on 9/28/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Okay, you may believe me or not, I found that page some days ago, and I found it with the content I gave above.

Here is the link without www. in it, I`ve just come to it by googling.

2011.geocataclysm.org...

In the link you posted, there comes another text when I pressed upon "declaration" than in my link, that I posted!



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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No, excuse me, now I`ve been really da da in my head, cause everything seems to go wrong.
Your text is seen when you press upon resolution, my text appears when you press upon declaration.

And even under resolution there`s this written:


Congress participants are concerned about global changes in the geological and geophysical parameters of the Earth and near-Earth space, any increase in the number and energy of natural cataclysms on Earth: in the lithosphere, in the Earth's interior, in the hydrosphere, atmosphere, ionosphere, and magnetosphere, all harboring potential dangers to humanity.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by coffeesniffer

Originally posted by Xquizit
Your link doesn't work. It automatically changes the http address to google.


It works just fine for me, why dont you cut the address from the link and paste it into your browser address bar that normally works when things are buggy.

Just to add ive not read it myself yet so no comment on the material, just thought id help with the link



Thank you for the confirmation!
And I will do my homework by learning how to use my adress browser.
I`m not only new in here, it`s also not so long, that I`m working with the internet, I must confess.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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You can get the Proceedings from the conference here:
geocataclysm.org...

As far as "Earth changes" goes, this seems to be covered by a single article from the conference. The article is titled GLOBAL GEOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE: THREATENING THE STABLE DEVELOPMENT OF CIVILIZATION and is by E.N. Khalilov. He seems to be attempting to tie a bunch of stuff together with some unknown thing that happened in 1998.
1. Magnetic poles’ drift acceleration
2. Anomalous J2 coefficient change
3. Global sea level change
4. Global tropospheric temperature change
5. An increase in large earthquakes
6. An increase in volcanic eruptions
7. An increase in tsunamis
8. An increase in floods in the US
9. An increase in tornadoes in the US
10. An increase in hurricanes and storms in the Atlantic
11. An increase in forest fires in the US

It seems that most of those items are debatable. His chart for earthquakes of magnitude 6.5 and greater from 1978 to 2010 seems to be inaccurate.

E.N. Khalilov is involved with some sort of "out there" stuff. He using some sort of crystal based detection system to try to predict earthquakes but he doesn't seem to be sure exactly what the detectors detect.
seismonet.org...

The rest of the articles from the conference seem to deal with disaster forecasting and mitigation.

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posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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no....just no.

agw denialists will grasp at any little thing to support their position.

dealing with this in another thread involving electricuniverse.

i have no clue how she can be so determined to push such idiocies.

boggles my mind...



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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Thanks for that link.
I`ll read some of the papers tomorrow. I`ll go to bed now, I`m from Germany, and it`s late at night here, I wish you a good rest-day!

The citations I gave in my introduction post were collective statements of all the Congress-members, one can assume they formulated them together, especially the leading members.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by aboriginee

Yes, and by the way, that would mean, that the reasons for those changes mainly aren`t man-made!


No, it is still man-made!


The Earth is a living thing. She doesn't want to be shaved, smoked, drilled, mined, infected by those tiny things called parasitic humans!


Someone would say as many who did "It's just normal Earth cycles"

They say it nice, relaxed, from the their comfortable seats behind the computer screen.

Let's hear them say it when the Earth starts popping!!!
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posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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The article includes the Manmade influence as one of it's variables. I don't see it as anything denying that man has not done anything. Too much mining can be creating a problem also but no scientist wants to address that issue. Mining of certain things effects the geomagnetics of the planet. Not all mines are bad, some actually could help the planet. The mining companies have lots of power in this world.
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by aboriginee
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I wonder what they mean, when they mention the earth-near space as one of the causing factors. Perhaps we can discuss about that, maybe we can carry together some assumptions.
Cause, I mean, when there are going on some changes in the earth-near space, and if they are one of the reasons for the earth changes, maybe they are the main reason.



Thanks for that link. You have no idea how many of us have been trying to warn people in sites like this one. I have tried since 2004, when I was under the name Muadddib. Many scientists have known the truth about the ongoing Climate Change since at least 1978 and what it entails. Many of those scientists have been trying to slowly inform the public about what is going on and what could happen.

Many people think the changes they have seen are extreme, but they have no idea that the worse is yet to come as our Solar System enters into the interstellar cloud we are close to. So far our Solar System has only gotten small doses of the cloud which has affected every planet and moon with an atmosphere in our Solar System, and including our Sun.

At first it was thought that we would encounter this cloud 10,000-50,000 years in the future, but recent research states that we will be completely inside the cloud within 100 years.

Mankind will have to adapt. The places that will be worse to be at are those close to the ocean.

I have been trying to show other members in this website that much of the warming is not only coming from our Sun, but from the core of the Earth. There are tens of thousands of underwater volcanoes in our oceans, far more than we have on land, and these volcanoes are powerful enough to heat large sections of the oceans.

Similar events have occurred in the past which have all been caused by cosmic events. Most geologists, and Climate Scientists don't look to cosmic events as the answer to Climate Changes, and instead blame it on a gas which really has no consequence on the global climate. Althought there are many Geologists that do understand that CO2 is not the problem, but it has become popular to blame the ongoing Climate Change on manmade CO2, and this is done to help usher us into a Global Socialist/fascist Government which is being set up with the excuse to "combat Climate Change, and for the good of humanity and Earth", although the real purpose is just that those in power want more power, more control over people.

There are a lot of people in the world, and too many people can't be controlled so these same people in power want to depopulate the Earth at any cost. This the the other reason why CO2 is being blamed for the ongoing Climate Change, so that it will be sequestered and this will cause for plants, trees and everything that is green to stun it's growth and produce less food, which will cause massive starvation.

There are other ways that the elites are trying to depopulate the Earth so we can be more easily controlled. Vaccinations with chemicals that cause cancer and sterilization. Their plan has become so bold that they are even offering sterilzation to girls as young as 15 years old even without their parents consent. The Obama administration has passed this legislation which became implemented recently.

Girls who are orphaned, and are wards of the state can and will be sterilized without their consent. Abortion has become an accepted practice even if the mother is in no threat of dying, which is most of the abortions being carried to this day. People have been indoctrinated into accepting that a human fetus is not "developed yet hence not human", yet the same can be said of a baby who was just born, or a child of 10 years old. We are beings who continuously develop throughout our entire lives.

Abortion has become so accepted that now the elites want to even allow parents and the state to murder children who will be born even if they have no health problems.


(NaturalNews) Since abortion on-demand is legal throughout most of the First World, the next logical step in the minds of some of the world's pseudo-intellectual elite is to legalize the murder of babies after they are born as well. A new article published in the Journal of Medical Ethics (JME) suggests that parents should be able to choose whether or not they want to murder their children after birth because these tiny individuals apparently do not yet possess a "moral right to life," and are thus not actually "persons."
...

www.naturalnews.com...

Most people are so brainwashed, even many of those who claim not to be, that eventually this view will also be accepted by many people and it will be used just as women murder their unborn babies to this day.

We are facing many problems, some which we might not see through. But you have a choice, do you accept what the elites want for you, or do you fight and take a moral stance against them?

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by ahnggk
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Someone would say as many who did "It's just normal Earth cycles"

They say it nice, relaxed, from the their comfortable seats behind the computer screen.

Let's hear them say it when the Earth starts popping!!!


You sir have no idea of what you talk about. Yes changes are happening, but it is not because of humans...

What you imply simply has no sense because the Earth changes at all times, and worse changes than what we are going through have occurred in the past yet humans were not to blame.

Also, blaming all of humanity for what some groups do is an overgeneralization. It would be like me blaming you for what the KKK does... Most humans have no say on what x company does, and if you imply that people should be living in caves to stop those companies then I tell to you how different are we from ants who dig tunnels in the Earth and propagate like a wildfire?... Should we hate ants as you hate humans?...

You think you "are outside of the box" and that "you are your own individual", but your responses clearly show that you are a mindless drone for the elites of this world who share a similar hatred as you do for humanity...

But don't worry, there are millions if not billions of mindless individuals out there who think "they are their own person" but in reality they are willing pawns for the elites just like you are.

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:42 AM
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I’ve been on ATS long enough to be exposed to all kinds of crazy, but this post takes it to a whole new level. I am a big supporter of the New Age movement, I fully believe that the Earth is indeed a living entity and I am very suspicious of TPTB; but its statements like this that give us all a bad name. This in turn allows the elite to hold onto their power as those who are genuinely trying to change the world for the better are branded as nut jobs.

1000’s of scientists around the world are not involved in some massive conspiracy which involves making the masses believe global warming is related to CO2 instead of secret underwater super volcanoes and interstellar clouds with radiation levels lower than the iPhone 5 at 50 paces. It is our reliance on oil which lines the pockets of the elite; and I completely fail to see how changing to renewable (free) sources of energy will help usher in a NWO.

At best your statements are completely wacked out, at worst they are actually dangerous. Do you have any legitimate sources at all for what you claim?

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by aboriginee
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Thanks for that link.
I`ll read some of the papers tomorrow. I`ll go to bed now, I`m from Germany, and it`s late at night here, I wish you a good rest-day!

The citations I gave in my introduction post were collective statements of all the Congress-members, one can assume they formulated them together, especially the leading members.



Yep I agree, because it clearly states this at the bottom of the declaration statement:

The Declaration has been unanimously approved by the participants of the World Forum – International Congress GEOCATACLYSM-2011


...and then it lists the names of all of the scientists around the world listed in your opening post. Whether they are right or whether they are wrong, it is an impressive collection of human brains agreeing with this declaration statement!





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