The Age of Free Labour - No longer yours to sell. UK Thread., page 3

reply to post by ANOK

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Yup....But what is sad is that the so called Elite are a bunch of spoiled brat spanked ar$e weak individuals that have never had a fisty cuffs in their lives and yet they can destroy men of great dignity and integrity with the stroke of a pen.Spineless Jellyfish!

Not only are the slaves required to work for nothing but a bus pass, a survey published today by DEMOs says that the majority (of a sample 2,052 people) believe benefit recipients should have their benefits ringfenced, ie claimants should be restricted on what they spend their benefits!

The survey was commissioned in partnership with Mastercard and from the results, it is clear to me that this forms part of the doing away with cash and switching to the 'electronic transactions only' banking-cartel agenda to lock us all down.

This survey forms part of a wider piece of research supported by MasterCard, exploring the role that prepaid cards might play in the delivery of direct payments and benefits. It comes at a crucial time as the Government prepares to launch a new ‘Universal Credit’ in autumn 2013 that will replace existing income-based benefits and tax credits.

The results also build upon the findings of the recent British Social Attitudes Survey, which found the percentage of people who believe governments have a responsibility to the unemployed to have enough to live on has plummeted from 85% of voters in 2001 to just 59% in 2011.

Demos’s Deputy Director Claudia Wood said: 'These findings paint a worrying picture of a nation divided between welfare claimants and the rest.

“It suggests that many now view the welfare state as a form of charity towards the poor rather than social insurance for all. If the majority still saw the welfare state as an insurance scheme - a contract of protection in return for contribution - then people would be more supportive of autonomy for benefit claimants.”

She added: “The government’s rhetoric around 'problem families' and ‘scroungers’ is clearly shaking people’s faith in the welfare state. Those wishing to restore it will need to find a response that reassures a nervous public.”

Marion King, President of MasterCard UK and Ireland, said “The roll out of direct payments and the introduction of Universal Credit have the potential to increase financial inclusion, especially if the combined payment is loaded onto a pre-paid card. This is because the card will give access to more ways to pay for goods and services while simultaneously enabling individuals to budget and save. Prepaid cards can also provide local authorities with the ability to monitor and control spending where appropriate.”

“It is important that the subject of control be discussed, because some local authorities are already using this technology in a limited fashion. This is no longer a hypothetical debate.”

www.demos.co.uk...

Originally posted by teapot
Not only are the slaves required to work for nothing but a bus pass, a survey published today by DEMOs says that the majority (of a sample 2,052 people) believe benefit recipients should have their benefits ringfenced, ie claimants should be restricted on what they spend their benefits!

The survey was commissioned in partnership with Mastercard and from the results, it is clear to me that this forms part of the doing away with cash and switching to the 'electronic transactions only' banking-cartel agenda to lock us all down.

This survey forms part of a wider piece of research supported by MasterCard, exploring the role that prepaid cards might play in the delivery of direct payments and benefits. It comes at a crucial time as the Government prepares to launch a new ‘Universal Credit’ in autumn 2013 that will replace existing income-based benefits and tax credits.

The results also build upon the findings of the recent British Social Attitudes Survey, which found the percentage of people who believe governments have a responsibility to the unemployed to have enough to live on has plummeted from 85% of voters in 2001 to just 59% in 2011.

Demos’s Deputy Director Claudia Wood said: 'These findings paint a worrying picture of a nation divided between welfare claimants and the rest.

“It suggests that many now view the welfare state as a form of charity towards the poor rather than social insurance for all. If the majority still saw the welfare state as an insurance scheme - a contract of protection in return for contribution - then people would be more supportive of autonomy for benefit claimants.”

She added: “The government’s rhetoric around 'problem families' and ‘scroungers’ is clearly shaking people’s faith in the welfare state. Those wishing to restore it will need to find a response that reassures a nervous public.”

Marion King, President of MasterCard UK and Ireland, said “The roll out of direct payments and the introduction of Universal Credit have the potential to increase financial inclusion, especially if the combined payment is loaded onto a pre-paid card. This is because the card will give access to more ways to pay for goods and services while simultaneously enabling individuals to budget and save. Prepaid cards can also provide local authorities with the ability to monitor and control spending where appropriate.”

“It is important that the subject of control be discussed, because some local authorities are already using this technology in a limited fashion. This is no longer a hypothetical debate.”

www.demos.co.uk...

edit on 2/10/2012 by teapot because: grammer

That is indeed a scary thought :/

Its no longer a class war, its a total annihilation and subjugation of your average joe.

reply to post by SearchLightsInc

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I think it just goes to show the power of the media in its demonisation campaign against benefit claimants. Amazing how attitudes can be manipulated so easily with a few bad stories held up to represent as the norm.

Times are going t get a lot tougher in times to come. We would be wise to stick together,rather than go after the poorest in society. No ones job is secure in this climate and no one could know whether or not they mighy have to claim some support at some time.

The welfare state has been something of value to our society. It is sad and scary to see it under attack, by the very people who may need it themselves.

reply to post by Freeborn

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It really is a shame that people no longer know how or why to stick together. The breaking down communities happened with thatchers right to buy scheme, suddenly the labourer and the doctor didnt live on the same street. Then came the mass immigration which decimated white working class communities, who's voices where muted while being berated for being "racist"

The middle-classes are notorious for organising things/people, this is probably why the media has worked so hard to turn them against the working class. I believe government now is full of privately educated citizens? (cons,labour,libs)


What chance do we really stand at clawing this country back from the lazy upper-class fecks who have never done a weeks graft in their lives?

And that sh!t that Milliband is coming out with "I was in a state-school to yano" Makes me wanna drop kick him into a dole office.

Now im apologising for my rant

reply to post by SearchLightsInc

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It really is a shame that people no longer know how or why to stick together.

Apart from the odd notable occassion have we ever really stuck together?

Our consistent failure to do so really is one of the major contributors to our downfall.

The breaking down communities happened with thatchers right to buy scheme,

I understood the council house sell off's - where it went tits up was not replacing those that were sold off with new, affordable housing.
This destroyed the strong community feel that was present in many council estates and forced young families into the private housing sector.
This in turn helped cause spiralling cost of private property - the ill effects of which we are still feeling today - and also the extortionate rise in private rental costs.

At the same time Thatcher and her Saatchi and Saatchi backers began a programme of convincing people that regardless of personal circumstances they SHOULD buy their own homes and that those in council accomodation were somehow inferior - a misconception that remains to this day.

In a nation as wealthy as ours I find it inexcusable that there are record numbers of homeless or people on benefits in private accomodation whilst there are record numbers of unused and abandoned buildings in the country.

Investment in the renovation of these buildings and the construction of new affordable homes for the less wealthy in our society would be relatively cheap and help provide a stimulus for our society on so many levels. (More people in work, less benefits, more discernible income, increased self-esteem, blah blah blah).

Then came the mass immigration which decimated white working class communities,

Immigrants have provided a lot to the continued growth and development of UK society and culture.
In addition the UK has long provided a safe haven for those in genuine fear of reprisal and recrimination.
And that is how it should be and long may it continue.

However, these immigrants have always contributed to our society whilst integrating into the whole.
What we have now is an influx of immigrants who despise the very values of the foster nation that is feeding and harbouring them.
They contribute little whilst expecting much.
And the PC brigade in their wisdom has deemed them above reproach and criticism is immediately racist.

In addition, as a result of the treasonous transfer of sovereignty to Brussels we have the influx of labour from Eastern Europe.
These people are quite prepared to work for less money, to live on subsistence levels whilst sending money that was previouslt spent in the UK back to wherever in Eastern Europe.

It seems the welfare and the concerns of these people now take priority over those of established communities.

I believe government now is full of privately educated citizens? (cons,labour,libs)

Blair, Brown and now Cameron all had more privately educated toffs in their respective cabinets than any other government since the 19th Century - a damning indictment of our education and government systems and our society as a whole.

What chance do we really stand at clawing this country back from the lazy upper-class fecks who have never done a weeks graft in their lives?

Claw it back?
We've never really had any real sort of say or control.

Now im apologising for my rant

Seems to becoming an all too frequent occurence for me recently.

reply to post by Freeborn

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Well, i do enjoy your rants and im sure im not the only one.

Thanks for dropping by on this thread

Here is an amusingly presented blog about the cost of housing in London:

Hey squaddie you earn too much for social housing in Tory Hammersmith

The lengths some right-wing buffoons will go to gain self-publicity and climb the greasy political pole shafting the squaddie born and raised in Hammersmith & Fulham is despicable. Andrew Johnson and Mark Prisk hang your heads in shame!

Reader next time you hear any Tory talking of returning heroes or how grateful they are to the men in khaki who put their lives on the line, or in the next day or so when the news tells us of yet another UK soldier killed in Afghanistan remember, this government is denying them the right to have children and a roof over their head!
speye.wordpress.com...

May seem a little off-topic but since the MOD has announced (www.dailymail.co.uk...) there will be another 8,000 redundancies come January, I just wonder how many are seeing what I'm seeing? How long do you think before we shall see workfare 'option' National Service 4 Dole?

Originally posted by teapot
Here is an amusingly presented blog about the cost of housing in London:

Hey squaddie you earn too much for social housing in Tory Hammersmith

The lengths some right-wing buffoons will go to gain self-publicity and climb the greasy political pole shafting the squaddie born and raised in Hammersmith & Fulham is despicable. Andrew Johnson and Mark Prisk hang your heads in shame!

Reader next time you hear any Tory talking of returning heroes or how grateful they are to the men in khaki who put their lives on the line, or in the next day or so when the news tells us of yet another UK soldier killed in Afghanistan remember, this government is denying them the right to have children and a roof over their head!
speye.wordpress.com...

May seem a little off-topic but since the MOD has announced (www.dailymail.co.uk...) there will be another 8,000 redundancies come January, I just wonder how many are seeing what I'm seeing? How long do you think before we shall see workfare 'option' National Service 4 Dole?

edit on 3/10/2012 by teapot because: add link

I could see that being a possibility! Though do they really want to train an army of unemployed people? haha

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