Was there a connection between the Illuminati, the Templar Knights and the MJ-12 ?

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posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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Strange question, I know.

Something very strange happened to me in February.

After it happened, I found out some very strange things about my family and myself.

They are things that remained hidden from me for 39 years, until after a very odd event in February.

Turns out my family was involved with the MJ-12, the Templar Knights, and some sort of secret society group in France which had connections to the French government, but they never told me about any of it.

Anybody want to help me make heads or tails out of this:

s839.photobucket.com...

If you click each photo, there's a small paragraph underneath to describe each picture.

Thanks,
Isaac




posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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"Turns out my family was involved with the MJ-12, the Templar Knights, and some sort of secret society group in France"

What like the priory of sion? LoL



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Are you going to tell us what happened in Feb?



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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What specifically were the events that happened in February of this year?

I am assuming whatever the events were in February... is how you found out that members of your family were and/or involved in secret societies.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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I believe the Priory of Scion was a hoax.

Would you like to elaborate on what took place in February, or should we guess?



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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OP seems to be implying that he had a sudden, overnight remission of Cancer.
This along with several family heirlooms with vague occult links and some spots shaped liked Orion's belt makes him think something is afoot.

The clues all seem to be layed out in a very perculiar way with various musings from the author relating to things that make them special.

If I was being cynical I'd say that the special chosen one wouldnt need my help via ATS to solve a secret in their own family.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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Your uncles name was Detlev Wulf Bronk. You've also got a birthmark shaped like the constellation of Orions belt on the side of your chest. Correct me if I'm wrong.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by andy06shake
reply to post by Soupornuts
 


"Turns out my family was involved with the MJ-12, the Templar Knights, and some sort of secret society group in France"

What like the priory of sion? LoL



Not too sure.

They were involved the French government. My grandfather met my father's parents one time for a dinner in Washington DC. They flew over from France, were diplomats, they spoke very little English, he spoke very little French, and that was the last time the two families ever crossed paths.

This was in 1972

I was told they did " black magick " rituals around me, hence the pics in my photo album.

Mother went into hiding with me in about '73/'74



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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I believe some of your photos have shown up here before with a somewhat different story associated with them. I could be wrong, but in case I'm not: Welcome back.



The most controversial is a fringe fraternal organisation, founded and dissolved in France in 1956 by Pierre Plantard. In the 1960s, Plantard created a fictitious history for that organisation, describing it as a secret society founded by Godfrey of Bouillon on Mount Zion in the Kingdom of Jerusalem in 1099, conflating it with a genuine historical monastic order, the Abbey of Our Lady of Mount Zion.

In Plantard's version, the priory is devoted to installing a secret bloodline of the Merovingian dynasty on the thrones of France and the rest of Europe.[2] This myth was expanded upon and popularised by the 1982 pseudohistorical book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail[1] and later claimed as factual in the preface of the 2003 conspiracy fiction novel The Da Vinci Code.[3]

After becoming a cause célèbre from the late 1960s to the 1980s, the mythical Priory of Sion was exposed as a ludibrium created by Plantard as a framework for his claim of being the Great Monarch prophesied by Nostradamus.

Evidence presented in support of its historical existence and activities before 1956 was discovered to have been forged and then planted in various locations around France by Plantard and his accomplices. Nevertheless, many conspiracy theorists still persist in believing that the Priory of Sion is an age-old cabal that conceals a subversive secret.[5]
The Priory of Sion myth has been exhaustively debunked by journalists and scholars as one of the great hoaxes of the 20th century.

en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Jukiodone
OP seems to be implying that he had a sudden, overnight remission of Cancer.
This along with several family heirlooms with vague occult links and some spots shaped liked Orion's belt makes him think something is afoot.

The clues all seem to be layed out in a very perculiar way with various musings from the author relating to things that make them special.

If I was being cynical I'd say that the special chosen one wouldnt need my help via ATS to solve a secret in their own family.


If I was being cynical I'd point out your opinion is based on very scant knowledge regarding the situation, and really has no gravitas to anybody but yourself.

But I won't



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by The GUT
I believe some of your photos have shown up here before with a somewhat different story associated with them. I could be wrong, but in case I'm not: Welcome back.


You are correct, I was here before.

That's why the story seems different.

The last time I was here, was likely a few weeks to a month or so after my event in February, this was before I started to research the items I had, and before I uncovered what I did.

It took me a few months of learning about, and researching history, researching different groups like the Templars, etc, before I was able to understand how my family was involved in.

Before February I didn't know what the Mj-12 was, who the Templars were, etc, so it took me quite a bit of reading to catch up to the fine minds on the conspiracy forums


Thanks for the welcome back, it's been an interesting summer



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by The GUT
I believe some of your photos have shown up here before with a somewhat different story associated with them. I could be wrong, but in case I'm not: Welcome back.



The most controversial is a fringe fraternal organisation, founded and dissolved in France in 1956 by Pierre Plantard. In the 1960s, Plantard created a fictitious history for that organisation, describing it as a secret society founded by Godfrey of Bouillon on Mount Zion in the Kingdom of Jerusalem in 1099, conflating it with a genuine historical monastic order, the Abbey of Our Lady of Mount Zion.

In Plantard's version, the priory is devoted to installing a secret bloodline of the Merovingian dynasty on the thrones of France and the rest of Europe.[2] This myth was expanded upon and popularised by the 1982 pseudohistorical book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail[1] and later claimed as factual in the preface of the 2003 conspiracy fiction novel The Da Vinci Code.[3]

After becoming a cause célèbre from the late 1960s to the 1980s, the mythical Priory of Sion was exposed as a ludibrium created by Plantard as a framework for his claim of being the Great Monarch prophesied by Nostradamus.

Evidence presented in support of its historical existence and activities before 1956 was discovered to have been forged and then planted in various locations around France by Plantard and his accomplices. Nevertheless, many conspiracy theorists still persist in believing that the Priory of Sion is an age-old cabal that conceals a subversive secret.[5]
The Priory of Sion myth has been exhaustively debunked by journalists and scholars as one of the great hoaxes of the 20th century.

en.wikipedia.org...
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Yes, I've seen the Wikipedia page before, thanks. Don't forget this bit from the top of the page:

" The Prieuré de Sion, translated from French as Priory of Sion, is a name given to multiple groups, both real and fictitious. "

But, like I said in the photo album, I don't know who they were, that's why there is a question mark (?) after it says " Priory of Sion ".

I only know what's written under the photos to be true and factual, regarding the research I did on the items I have in my possession.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by caladonea
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What specifically were the events that happened in February of this year?

I am assuming whatever the events were in February... is how you found out that members of your family were and/or involved in secret societies.


A remission, and some other things

Pardon me for not wanting to type it all up again, but here's a link to another thread, offsite.

www.unexplained-mysteries.com...

And yes, it was all unknown to me until afterwards



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Kentucky
Your uncles name was Detlev Wulf Bronk. You've also got a birthmark shaped like the constellation of Orions belt on the side of your chest. Correct me if I'm wrong.


He was my great or possibly even great-great uncle.

Yes, the belt is on one side of my chest ( Left ) and points to two other spots on the other side, in the identical spot. ( Right )



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Soupornuts

NVM
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posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Soupornuts
I only know what's written under the photos to be true and factual, regarding the research I did on the items I have in my possession.
Except that it's not factual. It's speculation.

St. Aldemar Commandery No. 18 is a Masonic group and has nothing to do with the historical Knights Templar. Your grandfather may have sent you a patch/sticker for the motor speedway because what boy doesn't like cars? You've jumped to a lot of conclusions which defy Occam's razor.



posted on Sep, 28 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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The first photos look like photos from a Catholic baptism to me, if the photos are of you then you should be able to find your father's name and much more from records at the Catholic church. The photo of the book isn't very clear but might be the Bible especially if it was a part of the photos from the Baptism. I am not Catholic but I did convert to Orthodox Christian which very similar to Catholicism, when I was Baptized the priest cut some of my hair as a part of the Baptism.

The page with the postcard from your maternal grandfather where you suggest he may have been a part of "St. Aldemar Commandery No. 18", which if he was would also be a good place to check as Freemasons keep great records of membership and if he was a member they'd be happy to tell you about it. You make another leap assuming he was in Theosophical Society (again contacting them would be fruitful if he was). The pirate flag and Indy sticker could be simply momentos. Grandfather's "shrine" seems like a fancy gated trellis at the entrance of a garden to me. Your grandfather was in the AF as well, yet another place to search for information about your maternal lineage.You are reading into the "meaning" of the image on the front of the card, I don't see anything particularly symbolic about it. However the photo of your grandfather and his ring, are you sure it was Masonic? Many fraternities have a ring, but if you are sure he was a Freemason then the Lodge near his house would be a good place to look as well. It occurs to me that most of the possibly Masonic aspects of your story are not your father at all but rather your grandfather. Your discussion of the Templar history is unrelated to your family history except by speculation, there is nothing from the postcard that firmly ties your father to the Templars. Anyway, not to diminish from you or your search. I think it will be a benefit to learn more about your family, I just think that you are looking in the wrong places for information.
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 04:24 AM
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I smell Mr Brown's special type of aroma here! How's Dan Brown doing these days anyways? LoL
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by Soupornuts
I only know what's written under the photos to be true and factual, regarding the research I did on the items I have in my possession.
Except that it's not factual. It's speculation.

St. Aldemar Commandery No. 18 is a Masonic group and has nothing to do with the historical Knights Templar. Your grandfather may have sent you a patch/sticker for the motor speedway because what boy doesn't like cars? You've jumped to a lot of conclusions which defy Occam's razor.


No, actually it's the other way around, you're jumping to conclusions.

Grandfather sent those items to my mother in the late 90's, when I was in my late 20's. He was not a racing fan, nor was I, ever. It has nothing to do with racing, sorry to disappoint you.

Despite what you say, the Templars, Lion's, and Freemasons are all common brothers, and many members belong to multiple groups.

What other " conclusions " would you like to point out ?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by Soupornuts
Despite what you say, the Templars, Lion's, and Freemasons are all common brothers, and many members belong to multiple groups.


In that case maybe you can list a few members.





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