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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by NorEaster

Originally posted by Darkblade71
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So why does it freak you out so much then?

My take from it is that things are now complicated where there once was peace, particularly with Sharia law.

This could be said for almost all religions at this point, things are now complicated that never were before. But that is just my thought, I liked it, it was catchy.


Okay, but the thing that upsets me is that the song reflects someone else's thoughts...not mine. And yet, apparently I wrote it and sent it to myself and have no memory of having done so.

Sh*t. I wonder what's buried in my backyard?
Haha dude,

I've had that same thought. Some advice: consider the idea that the pain you expressed in that song came from somewhere physically far away, maybe even the future, but because you cared, you manifested it then. When you did. And now you understand why you were feeling bad then.

Because the world itself is crying out in pain. Some people hear it. Some people even see it.
But some of us only catch a few words here and there.

Maybe you should check out some of the Empath sites (mostly scottish and celtic interests but still).




posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by NorEaster

Originally posted by Darkblade71
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So why does it freak you out so much then?

My take from it is that things are now complicated where there once was peace, particularly with Sharia law.

This could be said for almost all religions at this point, things are now complicated that never were before. But that is just my thought, I liked it, it was catchy.


Okay, but the thing that upsets me is that the song reflects someone else's thoughts...not mine. And yet, apparently I wrote it and sent it to myself and have no memory of having done so.

Sh*t. I wonder what's buried in my backyard?

Have you seen the movie "Fight Club"..?

perhaps you ought to just have it out with the Islamic fundamentalist within - no holds barred!



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 01:57 AM
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From my experiences...this sounds like someone who is able to hack into your system. The way it is written is a clue that some Idiot is either messing with you or some CONVERT who has become OVER ZEALOUS has decided to do this as they have nothing better to do than try to scare people.

Split Infinity....p.s....Here is a secret. They are actually S#!% Scared of US!



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:43 AM
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You know that I usually lurk and don't respond much on here.


But I have to say when I first read your OP - it felt like that your lyrics to me - well, it felt like you were talking to a person, more importantly, comforting someone (a female). When I first read it I got nothing of "Sharia ie: islam" - more ... a particular person.

Just a thought (and I have no idea how you come to invoke your songs) ...
Maybe try finishing this?
As in ... a kinda train-of-thought or automatic writing??

I dunno.
It can't hurt - lets see where it takes you



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:47 AM
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The Jinni predate Islam. They are simply the daemonic world in ancient times, a race of sprituals beings, for want of a better term. They are not necessarily good or evil. Socrates had a daemon that helped him.

There are many Quranic surahs and verses that pretend to "excorsize" them if recited and of course Christians and many societies have rituals.

However, they usually are futile for more serious cases.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:18 AM
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Although I was at one time a Huge Skeptic....I cannot discount what my eyes and ears have actually perceived. Although I never thought I would believe it...I have seen and heard a GHOST. Now I went through every possible explanation of what else it could have been and after checking everything possible....I saw it again.

Now I have no fear of a Ghost as it is the Living that people should be concerned with...and Ghosts were just people...some good...some bad...some still here because of TRAUMA. But I feel that any entity is only as strong as the Mind of the individual it is attempting to HACK.

Basically...people of a weak will and fearful of the unknown are going to have issues with a Ghost. The Living Human Mind is MUCH MORE POWERFUL than any entity that is attempting to access it and can only access a persons mind if it is allowed to. They can manifest by drawing in energy but a real Haunting that is not residual like a Tape of the Trauma that has been imprinted upon matter such as a home or an object...but an Intelligent Haunting is all about force of will. As a Living Being...a person has the ability to stop any entity in it's tracks and force it to behave. This applies to any other form of entity as if a person is frightened and believes they can be harmed...they are allowing this to happen. I am not a believer of Demons or Hell but I do believe that any entity stuck here in limbo for too long will go insane. Even still...I have no fear because they need to access my Mind to effect me...and that isn't going to happen! Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by CosmicEgg
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Maybe your belief system that calls for an overhaul then. Maybe this is the stuff that's pointing out to you that all things are not actually in the neat, tidy little boxes that our arrogant and egotistical "scientific" civilization would have you think.

Or then you're getting old and are in denial of things that you are/were/surely will be. Challenge yourself. Expand your mind. Step out of the box.



Trust me, if I step any further out of "the box" I'll run out of place to be.


It may sometimes seem as if I'm extremely rigid in my thinking, but if you actually pieced together the entire thought process, and didn't rely on one or two posts here and there, you wouldn't be advising me to "challenge myself". You'd know that such a thing isn't my problem. That said, I'm not so open minded that my brain is in danger of falling out onto the floor. For some, that is not open enough. In that sense, there will always be those who will be critical of me, and I'm comfortable with that.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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Well however this e mail came to you, it sure did make you think!
That's awesome.

At least for a little while,
then we tend to get the message and then over analyze it.

Don't think to much!



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Although I was at one time a Huge Skeptic....I cannot discount what my eyes and ears have actually perceived. Although I never thought I would believe it...I have seen and heard a GHOST. Now I went through every possible explanation of what else it could have been and after checking everything possible....I saw it again.

Now I have no fear of a Ghost as it is the Living that people should be concerned with...and Ghosts were just people...some good...some bad...some still here because of TRAUMA. But I feel that any entity is only as strong as the Mind of the individual it is attempting to HACK.

Basically...people of a weak will and fearful of the unknown are going to have issues with a Ghost. The Living Human Mind is MUCH MORE POWERFUL than any entity that is attempting to access it and can only access a persons mind if it is allowed to. They can manifest by drawing in energy but a real Haunting that is not residual like a Tape of the Trauma that has been imprinted upon matter such as a home or an object...but an Intelligent Haunting is all about force of will. As a Living Being...a person has the ability to stop any entity in it's tracks and force it to behave. This applies to any other form of entity as if a person is frightened and believes they can be harmed...they are allowing this to happen. I am not a believer of Demons or Hell but I do believe that any entity stuck here in limbo for too long will go insane. Even still...I have no fear because they need to access my Mind to effect me...and that isn't going to happen! Split Infinity


Some of my closest allies are dead already. Seriously. I am very comfortable with fully developed human beings, and while I accept that I am still just a 2nd stage gestational "fetus", I have established a few relationships with full humans already. Yes, they do think differently that we corporeals to, but not so much that the difference makes me uneasy.

And they don't really like the term "ghost", since they see the residual manifestations you described as being ghosts, and not actually human. They understand themselves as human beings, which they are (as opposed to what we are, at this stage, which is not quite human yet), and allow us to carry on with our own way of seeing ourselves, since they know that we're still gestating - as they themselves were while existing as material manifestations.

Whatever it was that crafted the song lyrics in that email wasn't one of my friends. That much I'm sure of. At that time, Sharia Law simply wasn't on any radar screen associated with me or anyone else I ended up involved with in 2010, relative to writing projects. That's what startled me so much. It exists as a complete one-off that never even fully emerged as a completed anything...even just a toss-away song or poem. In over 40 years of songs and poems, I've never left one dangling that I couldn't recognize when it was written and why it didn't resolve. This is the only thing I've ever seen that I honestly can't claim as my own thoughts or expression.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Darkblade71
Well however this e mail came to you, it sure did make you think!
That's awesome.

At least for a little while,
then we tend to get the message and then over analyze it.

Don't think to much!


But, I am a researcher at heart. It's like breathing for me.


I guess I am just trying to understand what the mechanics of something like this involve. My problem is that I've never even heard of this sort of thing, and have nothing to associate it with. It's a true anomaly (as far as I can presently tell) in a reality confine that does not allow for anomalies. My experience has been that if you run into an anomaly, you need to pull your perception perspective back until you find where that apparent anomaly fits into the larger whole. This thing doesn't offer me much in indication as to which way to look once I've drawn back far enough to include it as integral to the whole. It's due to this, that I'm offering it up for community examination, and entertaining any notions concerning how it could possibly exist.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Right on.

I fully understand that, as that is kind of what I do, although I prefer to put it as ripping the experience apart to figure it out.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by Netties Hermit
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You know that I usually lurk and don't respond much on here.


But I have to say when I first read your OP - it felt like that your lyrics to me - well, it felt like you were talking to a person, more importantly, comforting someone (a female). When I first read it I got nothing of "Sharia ie: islam" - more ... a particular person.

Just a thought (and I have no idea how you come to invoke your songs) ...
Maybe try finishing this?
As in ... a kinda train-of-thought or automatic writing??

I dunno.
It can't hurt - lets see where it takes you


I've tried automatic writing in the past, and it's just not something that I do. That said, I have discovered new information typing detained explanations, and have written poems that seemed like relative gibberish, only to be amazed at how fluent and cogent they were when examined afterward, so who knows. The hell is that a song about Islam (or even Sharia Law) doesn't appeal to me at all. I mean, who cares about a religion that they don't even understand? Maybe if I felt threatened by Muslims, but I just don't feel that way about them. The motivation to finish whatever this is, doesn't exist.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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From the Depths - by Inner Surge (A song about an honour killing - sharia law)






edit on 29-9-2012 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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The hell is that a song about Islam (or even Sharia Law) doesn't appeal to me at all. I mean, who cares about a religion that they don't even understand? Maybe if I felt threatened by Muslims, but I just don't feel that way about them. The motivation to finish whatever this is, doesn't exist.

This caught my eye, and reminded me of Cobain and his well documented hatred of Bon Jovi, and what he felt the band stood for, and he stood against. Cut to the chase, years after his suicide, supposedly his widow sold the rights to his visage and usage in a video game, in which he was playing Bon Jovi covers......

So, here we are, your email, with you the anithapthy intellectually of Sharia 'a law, from what I understand you to say, and these lyrics appearing in your own email, without your input or participation......

It strikes me, more and more, that these are the times, and the place that we are in, and things such as this example, are defining of our place and time.......
Increasingly, and the older I get, the more I see that we all seem to become or are represented somehow, as what we abhor, detest and have even spent most of our time, living and fighting, by example and real sacrifice and statement , against.....

I was never particularly religious, nor a believer in heaven or hell as actual, physical places, but I have to say....and I look for the lesson, so that we can all move beyond and suffer no more.....
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posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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That is why I said it is probably someone screwing around. The fact that it is a poem based on a Fanatical Religious Practice shows that it is a person doing it.

I have run into some people who come on this board and have talked about that particular practice and it is like talking to a wall. They have no respect for the beliefs of others and that practice is vicious in nature.

I believe it to be a person messing with you as any entity would care less about it. As far as Ghosts...certain physical materials seem to be able to record VIOLENT EMOTIONAL TRAUMA. It is like a magnetic tape that can record a voice. Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 30 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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Sharia is a plot from those opening up the hellgates with sacrifices, and they've even created negaitve ET bodies in pine bluff, cold lake and various underground bases. This is a part of the elite/dark hats and black operations.

Sharia/Nazi's connected.

This may not be something hacked, this may be a compartment, some aspect of your consciousness hijacked in a negative abduction, which occurrs alot on this planet and especially in the US.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Sharia is a plot from those opening up the hellgates with sacrifices, and they've even created negaitve ET bodies in pine bluff, cold lake and various underground bases. This is a part of the elite/dark hats and black operations.

Sharia/Nazi's connected.

This may not be something hacked, this may be a compartment, some aspect of your consciousness hijacked in a negative abduction, which occurrs alot on this planet and especially in the US.


If so, I'd sure like to know how that negative Nazi aspect of myself managed to send an email from one AOL screen name while I was logged in and composing an email to my agent (about a book titled "NorEaster", no kidding) that was very long and very detailed concerning the juxtaposition of three sub-plots, and how they each fed the main plot line in specific ways. Yesterday, I was looking for some sign-in passwords (on that business-focused email screen name) and found that email to my agent in my "writing items" folder, and the date alerted me to take a look at it to see what time I sent it. It was sent about an hour after that "Sharia" email was sent from a different screen name (same email account) to itself, and while that does not mean that the two emails were sent at the same time, the email I sent to my agent was a monster of a piece, and probably took at least an hour to compose - not counting the reading of the email that I got from him that caused that enormous email to be written in reply.

My AOL email account would not allow both screen names to be logged into at the same time. One or the other would automatically log off, and that's just how the thing works. Besides, it's really obvious that on that morning, my mind was nowhere near thinking about Islam or Sharia Law or a girl named Sharia or even song writing regardless of the subject. I was seriously irritated with my agent over his wanting me to simplify my manuscript so that he could cast his net a little wider within the more lucrative commercial fiction world than if I kept the character development complexities of the story intact. I decided to take the manuscript back and so - in essence - we both lost that little battle, since the book remains unpublished - but that's only why I remember that morning so well now.

Let's just say that I'm very aware - now - of what that morning was like and what I did. It's not every morning that you fire your agent and stall your writing career.

But I digress...
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posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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I have gotten e mails from myself as well, that I never sent. And so have other people, for that matter. Complete strangers angry at me, sending me an e mail telling me to knock it off. Somehow our e mail addresses get spam attached to them and are forwarded out as the original sender. I don't know how this happens but it does.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by jymmyjaymes
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I have gotten e mails from myself as well, that I never sent. And so have other people, for that matter. Complete strangers angry at me, sending me an e mail telling me to knock it off. Somehow our e mail addresses get spam attached to them and are forwarded out as the original sender. I don't know how this happens but it does.


That's common stuff, and I've had that happen before too. Weird ads and links to porno sites and terrible stuff. This was very different than that, and as I mentioned above, I was already logged in on a different screen name in the same account, so there wasn't any way for a spammer to use that screen name for his wicked business. Not at the moment in time that the email was sent. That's pretty important to think about in this situation. Not MORE important than the bizarre Islam/Sharia Law subject of the song chorus, but pretty important anyway. It's the entirety of the episode that starts stretching what I consider to be plausibility boundaries.



posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Have you checked the header to see if you could get an IP address indicating the origin of the email? Resource

[Edit to add]

For clarity, I did see where you stated you "did the data trail thing" but wasn't sure that meant pulled the IPs out of the header. If you did and verified it's your IP, then sorry for the side track.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
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