reply to post by woogleuk
The problem is, a lot of people (myself included) don't know anything about they guy, or what goes on behind closed doors in Iran.
No, no. That's not the problem. The problem is that ignorant people these days do not wish to inform themselves. So you wait until you are spoon
I used to think Iran was just like most places in the ME (Iraq etc), a lot of sand and camels (I know there is more to the ME than that, just
trying to get my point across).
And that says ENOUGH about your intellect. To assume rather than to research is a very big tell.
Then you see Ahmadinejad speak on talk shows, or at the UN, and he comes across as someone who (despite his obsession with getting rid of
Israel in favour of Palestine) wouldn't be out of place here on ATS.
Majority of people on ATS believe in UFO hoaxes and nonsense and coincidentally, that's where most of the revenue is generated on ATS. If you're not
out of place on most ATS topics, then there's something seriously wrong.
He talks about conspiracy, corruption, world peace, everyone getting along and respecting each others traditions.
He talks about it, as he conspires with his religious nut job freaks, corrupts the young generations of Iran through Islamic indoctrination and
Respecting each others traditions? Do you even have a clue how Iran has treated the Kurdish people? How about how they treat other ethnic minorities
and religious minorities? Getting along? "World peace" and you believe that? LOL.
What you just uttered is 1000% NONSENSE. YOU are the one who's falling for propaganda from a moron like Ahmaginejad.
Ok, he hates Israel, not the Jews, just the ones occupying what he believes is Palestinian territory, when I seen that video of him meeting
Jews in America, there was a genuine feeling of friendship amongst them.
WRONG. Again you fell for propaganda. That "meeting with Jews" was a meeting with fundamentalist rabbi's who, quite honestly, are insane. Those "Jews"
want to see Israel wiped out, similar to Ahmaginejad. And it happened over 4 years ago. "Genuine feeling of friendship"? That's just lunacy.
He doesn't deny the holocaust, just the involvement of Palestine, and the actual death toll, all he wants is historians to be allowed to reopen the
issue and find out the truth, nothing wrong with that.
Meanwhile, here in the real world, anyone who says such a thing is known to be a moron who should be ignored. You want to research it? Go ahead, go to
what's left of the camps. People like you sicken me.
His country persecutes homosexuals (I don't know if this is true or not), it wasn't that long ago homosexuality was frowned upon in the western world,
we learned to accept, respect and understand it a bit quicker.
I don't know how that constitutes an argument or a statement AT ALL. Just because something happened somewhere at some time does not mean it's right
for it to happen NOW.
So, whilst it still seems to have some of the ME medieval traditions (especially towards women), it still seems like one of the better places in the
ME, and if we are to take Ahmadinejad at face value and at what he says, a lot of our leaders could learn something from him.
But sadly, as you have proven yourself to know NOTHING about the ME, or Islamic culture and traditions. You don't know ANYTHING about Iran's political
system either, nor do you seem to do any research or critical thinking of your own.
This is just how it comes across to me from what little I know or have seen/heard.
And without knowing if it's true or not, you peddle it forward like a good lemming. Wake up, you have fallen for Islamist propaganda.
You say you are an Iranian citizen, why don't you tell us your story to give us another view to go by straight from the source.
You want a story go research stuff for yourself. There are PLENTY of stories from Iranians on this very site if you cared to look. But you don't,
since your disillusionment with your own government is so big, it keeps you from properly assessing sources for reliability.
I am open on the issue, I don't want to think good of a bad man, but I don't want to think bad of a (semi) good person based on hearsay or what
propaganda our leaders expect us to believe.
Read that bit back for yourself please:
You don't want to think bad of a man "based on hearsay or what propaganda our leaders expect us to believe." Yet you find it absolutely effortless to
minimize the suffering of MILLIONS of people in Iran, by claiming all the "bad" must be propaganda your leaders want you believe - while in reality,
Ahmaginejad is peddling propaganda. Such idiocy.
Get help, you might have severe paranoia issues.
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