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Topic started on 28-9-2012 @ 05:14 AM by timidgal
I have a few questions to pose to my fellow ATSers but first the anecdote that has precipitated this thread.

I have lived in three separate states within a relatively short period of time. Being the lawful citizen that I am, I followed the rules and had my driver's license transferred from state #1 to state #2 about two years ago when I first moved there. The duration of the license from state #1 was four years. I moved to state #2 before the four year period was up, but upon surrendering my license from state #1, state #2 issued me a new resident license, also with a four year expiration.

I just moved to state #3 and when they pulled my driving record, it showed that I had valid licenses from both prior states (which is illegal). This created quite a stir and required several top secret conversations amongst my tormentor and her contemporaries. Although I remained calm and tried to be the voice of reason ("This is obviously state #2's snafu since I couldn't have possibly gotten a license from them without having to surrender state #1's license), they couldn't seem to grasp this concept. So I was told to take a seat (again) while they checked with the main office about how to handle this. Keep in mind that this entire time, they had my license from state #2 in their possession, plus my SS card and birth certificate. I'm sitting there imaging that they're going to deny my request and keep my documents leaving me up the proverbial creek.

Anyway, after what seemed like an eternity, I was summoned over to "the desk" and given a statement to read and sign which said that I understand that they are going to be investigating me for identity theft. They will give me a temporary two week license, during which time they are going to compare my picture to those in EVERY state's database, as well as Homeland Security's, to ensure that I have no other licenses from additional unknown states. So I'm to trust that I will hear from them with their determination before the two weeks are up (of course they took and immediately cashed my check for a four year license). As tempted as I was to make a scene, I let my better senses prevail or I surely would have walked out of there without any license.

So now I have no choice but to wait the two weeks and hope that they do their due diligence promptly. Since there's no identity theft here, I'm not worried about the ultimate outcome; however, I'm curious as to whether this has happened to anyone else. Also, if your name is run through the Homeland Security database, does that not always stay with you?

Yes, this is yet another example of our government's incompetency, but the reality is that we are forced to sweat out the complications they create and hope it all works out - a concept I don't have too much confidence in. Can anyone lend some encouraging words from their own experience?


reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 06:15 AM by timidgal
reply to post by will615


Well, not necessarily encouraging words but honest ones for which I thank you. I'm still hoping I'll be touched by a bit of luck because I'm waaaay past due.

Thanks for responding!


reply posted on 4-12-2012 @ 11:33 PM by AQuestion
reply to post by timidgal



Dear timidgal,

Glad to hear that you got your license and that all is better. A couple of points.


Also, if your name is run through the Homeland Security database, does that not always stay with you?


I hate to tell you this; but, we are all in the government's databases. When they ran you, nobody cared because they didn't have a reason to. So whether you are in the database or not doesn't effect you. I personally am on a watch list (not a no-fly list, those are different) and I have no idea why (I belong to no organizations and am not political).

The second thing I wanted to point out was that you said they were comparing your face to all the other states databases for driver's licenses. What that should point out is that facial recognition technology makes your face your new ID, it is your national ID and soon to be your international ID. A number of years ago, the federal government instituted the RealID act, that had requirements on states which have been told many states did not go along with; but, in the end the result was the same. Your biometrics are your ID which is why they could run your face in others states databases and Homeland Security has access to them all.


reply posted on 5-12-2012 @ 12:24 AM by hounddoghowlie
reply to post by diddy1234


just about all of the states are signed up for the federal id they use each states license.Real ID
this pisses many people off.

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