posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 09:17 AM
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Ericthenewbie
Your fallacy lies in the way you apply context. Sure, 50k out of 300mil is not a large number. But that 50k represents individual people.
Individuals with individual rights.
To help shed light on my viewpoint, consider this:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
I think we are all familiar with the above, no need to source.
So, they have come for that 50k people and you are not speaking out. When will you?
My fallacy lies in the way I imply context?
I'm being factual based on the numbers from the article...70,800 being monitored = 0.022619% of total US population...
If you believe that to be a big number then you must also have the belief that every single person in the US is 100% innocent of any wrong doing..no
gangs, no drug dealers, no murderers, no kidnappers, no rapists, no child molesters, no thieves, no fraudsters, no mafia, no embezzlers and so on.
The article doesn't identify who is being monitored (just type of monitoring that is taking place)...so again, unless you believe there are no bad
apples in any group, my analysis of the numbers isn't a stretch by any means.
That being said, I do believe that every push from governments and corporations to change laws and policies in regards to accessing a citizens
personal information has to be challenged at every opportunity! I have never said nor indicated that I believe any differently!
When people exaggerate, embellish or fear monger.. it does nothing positive for the cause..it simply diminishes their creditability and turns those
that might have otherwise joined the fight, against you...hindering you rather than helping you....which in turn, let's the governments and
corporations further invade your rights and freedoms without contention!
Again, my posts have been in relation to this article and the numbers presented within...outside of that, conspiracy88 has very valid points in their
first post....what aren't we seeing?