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Feds got more peoples' phone call records in last 2 years than previous 10.
Statistics obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union provides additional evidence that government surveillance of Americans has skyrocketed in recent years. The government is legally obligated to release reports about its surveillance activities, but it refused to do so until the ACLU sued to compel the production of the documents.
Today's telephone networks have the ability to capture this information without any special equipment. And the government has expanded the concept to include other forms of communication such as email.
The legal standard for conducting this kind of non-content surveillance is less stringent than the rules for conducting a wiretap. To get a wiretap order, the government must convince a judge that it is essential to an investigation, but pen registers must merely be "relevant" to an investigation to obtain the approval of a judge.
... these statistics likely don't include cell phone location tracking by law enforcement. They also omit government access to emails stored by third party providers. And they entirely exclude the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping program under the FISA Amendment Act.
Originally posted by Ericthenewbie
Am I reading the charts right ...1st one 20,000 ppl...2nd just under 50,000 ppl and the 3rd 800 ppl ?
I have to be missing something... those number don't seem high when you consider the population of the US.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by Ericthenewbie
Am I reading the charts right ...1st one 20,000 ppl...2nd just under 50,000 ppl and the 3rd 800 ppl ?
I have to be missing something... those number don't seem high when you consider the population of the US.
if you don't see issue with numbers of that size then you have lost your way, choosing to be a docile lamb. BTW, i was seeing 250k, not 25k....but my eyes are having a hard time focusing tonight.
Regardless, your confusion seems to indicate how accustomed to not being free we have become.edit on 27-9-2012 by bigfatfurrytexan because: (no reason given)
While the growth rate for Internet surveillance is high, such surveillance still accounts for a tiny fraction of pen register and trap-and-trace orders overall. In 2011, only about 800 of each type of order was issued for Internet traffic, compared to almost 20,000 of each type of order for telephones.
Originally posted by hoochymama
reply to post by conspiracy88
Cool it?? Ok....I dont think so.
The point was, it doesnt matter the "percentage" it matters that its happening. Trying to read into a post does no one any good. The point he was trying to point out was that "its such a small proportion of our Population" it doesnt deserve a mention.
If the post had to do with the amount of people are incarcerated than make that post, other wise this post is about surveillance. Dont try and get confrontational if your argument has a totally different basis.
Originally posted by hoochymama
reply to post by Ericthenewbie
You did bring up the portion of Population as a percentage and you even brought your stats with it. Does it make it OK cuz its such a small amount?? Lets say we had 2 billion people like China, with the percentage being the same, that would be a lot more people...right??
Originally posted by JackBauer
I guess when i see those graphs i'm not so much concerned with the numbers as i am the huge spike in 2009.
What exactly happened in 2009 that caused this massive jump? Criminals come and go by nature, they don't just quadruple in one year.