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Originally posted by wrdwzrd
The swastika is an ancient Indian symbol used for good luck. The Nazi's stole the imagery and reversed it, the intention being it would do the opposite.
The Buddhist sign has been standardized as a Chinese character 卍 (pinyin: wàn) and as such entered various other East Asian languages such as Japanese where the symbol is called 卍字 (manji).
Originally posted by BigBrotherDarkness
The swastika in Buddhism represents the "mind seal" of enlightenment...not a good luck charm. Tibet's first religion was the Bon religion this is where to dig if you want to know more of what Hilters men were after, Tibetan Buddhism is a mixture of Bon and Buddhism. Aryan is mistaken to mean master race etc. when it actually means "the noble ones" in Pali they are referred to as Arhats, basically fully enlightened beings; not a particular race. At least that is what one finds digging through historical research and cross referencing root terms of Hindu, Pali, and Tibetan further than what old language interpretations did, to see what they were meaning clearly.
I have studied all forms of Buddhism for 22 years as well as the 5 languages it is typically presented in to get better a better understanding of the concepts presented by the Buddha, I haven't bothered to dig into the Bon religious mythos but this thread has peaked my interest to do that; for the sake of seeing what the SS were after...is Aryan a bad interpretation of Arhats I think so, were the Arhats just enlightened beings or a race derived from much earlier beliefs that were thought to enlightened and the enlightened disciples of the Historical Buddha called the same?
The historical Buddha Guatama was not the first to incarnate on this "world system" or planet, according to the Pali Cannon, there have been 27 before the historical Buddha everyone knows; the large laughing Buddha is actually a Chinese monk, that is supposed to reincarnate as the future Buddha Maitreya. It is typically stated that when peoples average age reaches 100 years old a Buddha appears in the world to guide and teach.
For those that don't know, the Buddha is NOT a god, Buddha just means "awake" there is no worship of gods, they are beings on the wheel of life and death just like every other being. The statues of Buddha are not idols to be worshiped, they are bowed to out of respect for the teaching not blind belief or treatment as a god. There is however a branch called pure land; that is like other religions; they treat Buddha as a Jesus, or Muhammad and choose to worship instead of walk the Buddhas path. The gods depicted in Buddhist iconography, are typically depictions of aspects within oneself, they are used to teach in much the same way proverbs is meant too, as an allegory.
I will do some research into Bon and try and find out what Hitlers men were really after, and come back when I have a complete picture of the Bon mythos and how it relates and post it if anyone is interested.
Originally posted by victor7
Even now some German women travel to Tibet and get impregnated by those whom they think are real Aryans. Such crap and senseless persistence with logic of a devilish evil man is outright lunacy.
Originally posted by Svipdagr
reply to post by fedeykin
Nope. That's not why they included the swastika. Yes there are are links to the swastika from Germanic, illyrian history. But this isn't the reason why the nazi's included it. It was a symbol from india. In Hitler's quest to find aryan history, he believed the original aryans came from somewhere in india. Thus using this symbol to show the purity of them.
The use of the swastika was incorporated by Nazi theorists with their conjecture of Aryan cultural descent of the German people. Following the Nordicist version of the Aryan invasion theory, the Nazis claimed that the early Aryans of India, from whose Vedic tradition the swastika sprang, were the prototypical white invaders. The concept of racial purity was an ideology central to Nazism, though it is now considered unscientific
eitherway, rather stupid. he destroyed a great symbol. now its thought by so many in the world as a symbol of hate. imagine wearing a shirt with a swastika in any western country, you'd have people trying to kick your butt in no time. only good thing is that it still has its meaning in southern and eastern asia. at least from the countries i've visitededit on 27-9-2012 by Svipdagr because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kantzveldt
reply to post by ipsedixit
A seated figure in repose should of course be cross legged for Buddhist tradition.
The German women visiting Ladakh interacted with male members of the Brokpa tribe who are said to be pure-blooded Aryans, or descendants of Alexander the Great, or both. Did you interview any of them? SS: Yes, I tracked down a young 22-year-old Aryan guy who told me exclusively on camera how he is the father of two German kids, and they've been promising to bring the children to Ladakh, but it's never happened. They keep sending money and gifts and one of the mothers — because he's been doing it with many of them — she was supposed to come for some festival. He got a letter and showed it to me. We were waiting and waiting, but she never came.
Originally posted by lacrimaererum
What more could you ask for?
A buddhist statue stolen from Tibet by the Nazis and originally carved from a rare meteorite.
It seems the Nazi's like hunting cosmic trophies around the world.
Also notice the swastika on the statue.
A large swastika in the centre of the 24 centimetre-tall figure may have enticed the German expedition leaders, who were supported by Nazi SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Swastikas decorate many Buddhist and Hindu statues. The ancient symbol was adopted by the Nazis, who modified it into a mirror-image form. Himmler believed the origins of the Aryan race could be found in Tibet.
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