Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by ntech
Interesting thought and a possibility if you can determine who the correct ram and goat are. Ram's are leaders of the sheep, theyre protectors who
will even take wolves on if threatened. The law of clean beasts and unclean beasts may need to be applied to this prophecy. Don't force it, these are
not elements that were not given for us to not know.
Ok, how to determing the ram and goat. If you look at Daniel 11-2 that is the very first event of the end times according to Daniel. In it he says a
loose coalition of 4 states/kings are stirring up trouble for another entity he calls the realm of Greece.
This prophesy is supposed to happen just before the time of the end, end of years, or end of days. See Daniel 11-6, 11-40 and 8-17. But what is the
time of the end? According to Genesis 48 and 49 the time of the end is when the Israelites have become a multitude of nations. See Genesis 49-1.
Still a future or current event now.
So what is this term realm of Greece? I believe it's a simile
. Used when the prophet has no clue what
he is looking at so he used a description of the object instead. John used them in Revelation to describe the various creatures of the Apocalypse.
Locusts, Dragons, and Beasts to mention a few of them. Daniel is just saying the thing being attacked in 11-2 looked Greek.
Also to bolster this argument look what the US has done since 9-11. The US has conquered 2 nations in the middle east. Just as predicted in Daniel.
And now they have the forces there to take out Iran if the orders for it come down. The US as the end time "realm of Greece"? Looking pretty
And another problem is the timing of all this. Looking at the fig tree prophecy of Matthew one thing he is doing there is putting a timeline on the
Apocalypse. The "generation" of Matthew 24-34. Essentially the average lifespan of humans right now is around 70 to 80 years. As per Psalms 90. So
if the events of Daniel were going to happen in the apocalypse then....They should be happening now.
As for the ram Daniel 11-2 says the 4 kings/nations involved come out of the area of the former Persian empire. Iran was Persia. And it's empire
stretched from Egypt to India.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and
commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
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