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Originally posted by QuietSpeech
reply to post by OneEleven
I was curious if your meditation brought these things on because if that was the case I would not be the least bit surprised.
Originally posted by herbderpman
We all possess these abilities, however very few ever get a chance to experience them.
Originally posted by OneEleven
Originally posted by 0mage
quit whining.. grow a pair and channel your fear and panick into something else. accept that this is who u are and what happens to you. start writing them down as stories or translated into some sort of novel chapter or passage, a comic strip a painting, music, lyrics/poem anything.
become yourself!
rahahahaha ... this actually made me smile ... your approach was hilarious ... Channelling these experiences into some sort of art is probably good advice, as i am an artist by trade and profession (CHECK OUT MY SIG), but this is one of the problems .... When i get into these , ugghhh, these low spots or whatever, i can't do ANYTHING ... I can't paint, sculpt, or even sketch ... Thanks for the tough love ....
Originally posted by OneEleven
Originally posted by QuietSpeech
reply to post by OneEleven
I was curious if your meditation brought these things on because if that was the case I would not be the least bit surprised.
Hey thanks for taking the time ....
I've never meditated ... I can find my soul behind the front of my forehead without meditation ...
I've never gotten into any mysticism or Hindu or Buddist teachings ... I've never looked into the Book Of The Dead or anything else that people usually look for when interested in this subject ...
That being said, i've never really been interested in this subject ... It's all come to be without any will or want from me ... It just flopped into my 'lap' ...
I probably SHOULD look into this subject, but the problem there is, how do you know who's telling the truth ... You can walk into ANY bookstore and find troves of literature on these subjects, but what qualifies these people to tell you about such things? Which one of them (if any) even know what they're talking about?
I remember hearing Linda Moulton Howe speaking on this subject in videos posted right here on ATS, and i've got to say, the woman is an idiot.
That may be a little harsh. Maybe she isn't an idiot. Maybe she's just misinformed, or maybe she's just relating what she's been 'taught' by someone else who didn't know what they were talking about.
How many of these 'teachers' and 'authors' fall under the Linda Howe category?
I'm very suspicious of 'authors' and 'spiritual teachers' ...
EDIT!!
I retract my statement about Mrs. Howe. She isn't who i thought she was. Maybe people still have problems with her, but SHE IS NOT WHO I WAS TALKING ABOUT in my own statement. I was mistaken.
It was definitely a woman though, and very popular, and she was WELL misinformed.edit on 28-9-2012 by OneEleven because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
reply to post by OneEleven
I dont think this poster is trying to demonize you but what he's saying is the truth,
What it is consulting with familiar spirits,
Deuteronomy 18:12
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Anytime that someone appears to come to a person as the spriit of a dead relative or individual you can bet your bottom dollar that its not, but instead a powerful fallen spirit that has permisson, maybe not consiously but spirtually to be there. Just because you cant see it doesnt mean it isnt there, their domain is the realm of the mind they are experts almost in deception, they've had alot of time to perfect this spritual predation. You dont have to try to mingle to have the devil try to decieve you, even Christians aren't immune from the tricks you have to put on the full armor of God,
The Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord I do not beleive that human spirit is able to exist without the body in the physical, this goes for a ghost or any kind of paranormal activity.
Demons , the word is used in a broad sense to describe what these entities are really, theres a complicated spirtual hirearchy, they might seem benign but there is a reason they are dissmissive and do not offer and realistic help, they avoid anything having to do with the Bible, instead they give vauge kind of New Age spirtual advice, the "help" they offer is akin to saying what you want to hear. They keep the visitation short in order for a discerning individual to not pick up on the subtlety of the deception, for instance asking the right questions, like Bill Schnoebelen says, a broken clock is right twice a day.
Watch these videos,
www.youtube.com...
I know that I have never been contacted at any point during my life or in a dream in which an individual claming to be deceased. However I have had many powerful spirtual experiences and know of many that have seen "ghosts". I can only attribute that to my strong willed personality and the Lord im not quick to trust anyone however i've come to get past alot of it in dealing with people. I like to think I have some hands on experience on the subject. They dont need help passing over because the real person's spirit already did thats just vain imaginings, theres only 2 places you can be awaiting judgment, the appointed time.
If you dont believe me ask the Lord to help you see the truth on this matter. I dont deny that there is purpose behind it, just not be what you think. I can provide alot of information if you life.
edit on 28-9-2012 by EnigmaticDill because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 0mage
Originally posted by OneEleven
Originally posted by 0mage
quit whining.. grow a pair and channel your fear and panick into something else. accept that this is who u are and what happens to you. start writing them down as stories or translated into some sort of novel chapter or passage, a comic strip a painting, music, lyrics/poem anything.
become yourself!
rahahahaha ... this actually made me smile ... your approach was hilarious ... Channelling these experiences into some sort of art is probably good advice, as i am an artist by trade and profession (CHECK OUT MY SIG), but this is one of the problems .... When i get into these , ugghhh, these low spots or whatever, i can't do ANYTHING ... I can't paint, sculpt, or even sketch ... Thanks for the tough love ....
it's only because this sort of thing is comparably scarce or disregarded by the majority of ppl around you that makes u feel different. but ur supposed to feel different.. in fact, it is they who are different from their true human nature. these things are 100% natural progressions of human evolution and u shouldnt feel as a weirdo for it. in fact it is they are the degenerate weirdos. the caterpillars who assume there is no more to life than being a grub and so dont seek to become a butterfly even when butterflies come to them and say i was once like u. i have a way with words i know.
Originally posted by 0mage
if i remember correctly this quote is from the new testament and i have always suspected this paragraph in particular of persuading the masses to avoid attempting to access heaven via the means of instructions found in other holy doctrines. namely eastern philosophies and enlightenment texts. at the end of the day, going to bed and dreaming is a form of divination. meaning it is absolutely natural. utilizing ur 3rd eye is as natural as using both ur arms. who is to tell u that one of those arms should not be used. then why were u created with 2 arms instead of one.
but there is another perspective. it could be accepted as truth if it were to say do not seek these things. seek the Lord and all these things will be given to you through the blessing of the Holy Spirit. either way.. i am 100% certain, that the Holy Spirit provides these gifts of God. so they arent SIN so to speak. i suppose since being granted the gift via the Holy Spirit makes u an agent of balance where essentially. u can do no wrong since ur just going with the flow.
just some food for thought.
Originally posted by therovers
Your claimed psychic ability sadly sounds nothing more than common human intution or concidences.. we all go through that akward phase were we have a dream or a thought about the future that comes true and suddenly consider ourselves psychic boffs,
Originally posted by redrezo
Originally posted by therovers
Your claimed psychic ability sadly sounds nothing more than common human intution or concidences.. we all go through that akward phase were we have a dream or a thought about the future that comes true and suddenly consider ourselves psychic boffs,
Yes and No, I disagree in the sense that I believe that psychic ability is real there are many instances of phenomena that happen that are far beyond coincidence but the level of intuitive ability varies among people, the vast majority of people and every person on this forum is not at such a grand level, and nobody is god. In that sense I agree that a good number of misses are not accounted for when people focus too much on the hits.
I also agree a bit of salt needs to be taken, people who take this kind of stuff too seriously tend to fall off into the realm of the 'crackpot' and delude themselves into believing absolutely in things that are potentially false.
Originally posted by tony9802
I once met a psychic who had worked for the FBI (for 11 years!!) helping them solve murder mysteries or crimes in general