reply to post by DaesDaemar
I'm not sure I get what you mean here, perhaps a link to something to educate me?
A link to learn the gist of Jewish tradition? That would require more than a link. You could if you like get an idea of the political ideas in the
Hebrew bible from Leon Kass' "Reading Genesis", and especially Yoram Hazony's "Philosophy of the Hebrew Scriptures".
But you would need to have intimate knowledge of a core literature that if you don't have, you wouldn't quite as well appreciate the discrepancy
between Jewish ideas and Hellenistic ideas. Suffice to say, our world is primarily based on a mixture of Jewish and Hellenistic ideas; but as we move
more towards moral relativism, and towards universal identity in culture, language, and eventually religion, we 'cast off' the values bequathed to us
Just think of it in these terms, Judaism emphasizes particularism; it's very story is every peoples story; every people feels 'chosen' but this
chosenness need not mean to hurt the other; the stranger is to be treated with kindness, as the Torah again and again says.
Particularism emphasizes differences, and sees unity from the perspective of division. Universalism is the opposite; it seeks unity from the
perspective of the collective.
Do you think that usury, and it's effects, has had anything to do with it?
huh?? Have you not read Plato or Aristotle?? Usury isn't just a Jewish concept you know - but a UNIVERSAL concept. Usury was being applied in China
and Japan and India - places which had no contact with the Jews.
And no, it's a fallacy to think usury was the reason; it was the oft invoked pretense of those who intended harm for the Jews, but the Jews themselves
- the vast majority of whom were average laymen, stuffed into ghettos or living far away from Gentile cities, they had nothing whatsoever to do with
the financial positions of certain Jews
And why do you ignore the irrefutable truth that Christians employed
Jews as tax collectors because their religion - Christianity - didn't
That logic is akin to me hiring a hitman to kill someone; I profit - the person I wanted dead is dead, but somehow i'm not guilty of it. likewise, the
'tax' collectors employed by governments themselves made a fortune from the tax collected. They only got Jews to do it for two possible reasons; to
perpetuate a negative image of the Jew - who would be doing an unpopular job, and to make a fortune themselves.
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