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Iran Haters: NOW what....? What crime do you charge Ahmedinejad with?

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posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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he was educated to be ruling class or Pharaoh itself and the knowledge level would apply.


ok I can buy that. He did however have to have a motivation. As he lived in such atmosphere, he had to have an experience which would draw him closer to his true brethren.
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posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by DerekJR321
Oh my.. I just came across a video, of Amedinejad, meeting with Jewish leaders in NY. Why would someone who supposedly "hates Jews" do such a thing??




By the way some talk, you think he would be foaming at the mouth, lunging over tables to kill them.




As much as Ahmadenijad doesn't hate Jews, that video is roughly 5 years old.


I explained that in the thread it was posted in.

This is an awful meeting. These Jews are Lubavitcher, they live in Brooklyn and many believe In the end times and that Israel will not survive, basically they agree with Ahmed, this is all self fulfilling prophecy by people who for their beliefs to be validated the world basically has to end... this is the planetary butt hole commission your looking at



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:30 AM
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And Jews living in Israel including the politicians are not motivated by religion? What do you think the read everyday, comic books and pornos?



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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What do you think the read everyday, comic books and pornos?


If they did there would probably be no violence period. Everyone would have a laugh, and be able to release sexual tension. I see that as a win for humanity in general.
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posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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well, there is the whole Rothschild aspect to all of this. There is a group of individuals who do not believe that the regaining of control of Israel by force is the best way. The Rothschilds financed the return of many Jews to the land of Israel, but there is a freemasonic element to all of it. I have seen pictures of the Supreme Court building there which has masonic symbols embedded, much like in Washington, and Edmond de Rothschild is buried in a Masonic graveyard.
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posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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this is all self fulfilling prophecy by people who for their beliefs to be validated the world basically has to end... this is the planetary butt hole commission your looking at

They aren't the only "buttonholes". Theres western Judeo Christian ethos that believes the same thing. Then there is the military dogs chompin' at the leash. Finally theres the media and One World Odoriferous that think they are helping everyone with their idealized goals that will make everything better. Add in a dab of "extremism" and set on high.



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
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And Jews living in Israel including the politicians are not motivated by religion? What do you think the read everyday, comic books and pornos?


Jews have unity through Fear of others, Israel is... different there is an Orthodox sect, that sect is broken into several distinct groups including Hasidim, Lubavitcher, Talmudic there is an entire population of Atheist Jews Scientists for the most part and they are very large by number and non secular jews which are broken down into Semitic and Ashkenazi (European) Neither group being more religious than a typical westerner is in Christianity, they celebrate 2-3 holidays and largely don't give a flying frick

The worldwide Jewish population is 13.3 million Jews. Jewish population growth worldwide is close to zero percent. From 2000 to 2001 it rose 0.3%, compared to worldwide population growth of 1.4%.

Israel at close to 8 million Jews is 25% Orthodox (or waaay too into it) Jews, slightly less than 2 million

No... the crazy Jews don't hold all that much sway

The ridiculous aspect of this all is that by demographic there will be hardly any Jews left in 100 years, globalism is doing what every nation for 5000 years has failed at, the majority of Jews outside of Israel inter marry a significant number within Israel inter marry with others

with 2 million hard core Jews in the world with various levels messianic sort of stupidity going on you can expect that number to diminish and virtually no other Jews to exist within less than a century

Or in short... Israel eventually wont be Jewish and no one has to do anything

The only GLUE within the society is a common bond of fearing someone will come kill them again... left alone there would be no commonality what so ever between the factions aside from a self depreciating sense of humor and a talent with numbers

The motivation isn't religion it's Persecution

Take away that fear Judaism is all but lost already



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
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What do you think the read everyday, comic books and pornos?


If they did there would probably be no violence period. Everyone would have a laugh, and be able to release sexual tension. I see that as a win for humanity in general.
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So do I
but it aint going to happen



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
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What do you think the read everyday, comic books and pornos?


If they did there would probably be no violence period. Everyone would have a laugh, and be able to release sexual tension. I see that as a win for humanity in general.
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Actually yeah... Ron Jeremy? Stan lee? KISS Gene Simmons? Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster the creators of Super Man?

Jews started heavy metal to a degree at least, they created the comic book industry made the first pron popular... even b4 the interwebs

yeah 2/3 of Jews are completely non secular, nerds big nerds

That's what they like Porn and Comic Books... ask a guy from Brooklyn lol



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr
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this is all self fulfilling prophecy by people who for their beliefs to be validated the world basically has to end... this is the planetary butt hole commission your looking at

They aren't the only "buttonholes". Theres western Judeo Christian ethos that believes the same thing. Then there is the military dogs chompin' at the leash. Finally theres the media and One World Odoriferous that think they are helping everyone with their idealized goals that will make everything better. Add in a dab of "extremism" and set on high.


I know, I said earlier in another thread that those with messianic beliefs put Israel there in the first place to fulfill prophecy it just sucks to see the plan coming together so well



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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well, there is the whole Rothschild aspect to all of this. This group of individuals does not believe that the regaining of control of Israel by force is the best way. The Rothschilds financed the return of many Jews to the land of Israel, but there is a freemasonic element to all of it. I have seen pictures of the Supreme Court building there which has masonic symbols embedded, much like in Washington, and Edmond de Rothschild is buried in a Masonic graveyard.
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It's hard to even fathom... a lot of people in here talk like the know something but really all is theories

I can say this much A LOT of people to this day pretend to be Jews for various reasons i have known plenty of them, there is dual citizenship to consider for illicit purposes, beliefs that "being in the tribe" will lend riches to them and some times it does jews are famous for helping other Jews financially

And, he who controls God controls the masses

Why do Jews get attacked so often? because neither Islam nor Christianity has dibs on god while they are around. they were Numero Uno



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 01:15 AM
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How far does one go back?

The American Indians were here before us. Who was here before the American Indians? Who even knows, but by this logic, whoever they are, they have the ultimate claim to the United States.

But wait it gets better.


Originally posted by milkyway12
Palestinians lost a war, that sucks, shouldn't have lost.

"Might makes right".

There was no war. The Palestinians were minding their own business when they were unilaterally invaded and attacked. They didnt ask for this fight, it was forced onto them.

In other words you condone all acts of violence, all theft, all crime. Its fine if I'm able to take your wallet, why? Simply because I can. Hey, you should have been able to stop me.

Sucks for you.




posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by penninja

Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by DerekJR321
Oh my.. I just came across a video, of Amedinejad, meeting with Jewish leaders in NY. Why would someone who supposedly "hates Jews" do such a thing??




By the way some talk, you think he would be foaming at the mouth, lunging over tables to kill them.




As much as Ahmadenijad doesn't hate Jews, that video is roughly 5 years old.


I explained that in the thread it was posted in.

This is an awful meeting. These Jews are Lubavitcher, they live in Brooklyn and many believe In the end times and that Israel will not survive, basically they agree with Ahmed, this is all self fulfilling prophecy by people who for their beliefs to be validated the world basically has to end... this is the planetary butt hole commission your looking at


Body language reveals a lot more than words sometimes...

If you watch the body language of Ahmad's hands from start to finish of your video: Hand shakes: Dual handed glove Handshake - The glove handshake is sometimes called the politician’s handshake. The initiator tries to give the receiver the impression that he is trustworthy and honest, but when this technique is used on a person he has just met, it has the reverse effect. The receiver feels suspicious and cautious about the initiator’s intentions. The glove should only be used with people to whom the initiator is well-known.

When the man to his right stood up as he was sitting: Submissive Palm Position - The palm facing up is used as a submissive, non-threatening gesture, reminiscent of the pleading gesture of a street beggar.

Lowered steeple hands under the table: People who are confident, superior types or who use minimal or restricted body gestures often use this gesture, and, by doing so, they signal their confident attitude. It is frequently used in superior/subordinate interaction and that it can be an isolated gesture which indicates a confident or 'know-it-all' attitude. Managers often use this gesture position when giving instructions or advice to subordinates and it is particularly common among accountants, lawyers, managers and the like.

The Lowered Steeple - The position is normally used when the steepler is listening rather than speaking.

Most of the time sitting t the table: Research by Nierenberg and Calero on the hands-clenched position brought them to the conclusion that this was a frustration gesture, signalling that the person was holding back a negative attitude.

The person would be more difficult to handle when the hands are held high, than he would be with the person whom hands resting on the desk position. Like all negative gestures, some action needs to be taken to unlock the person’s fingers to expose the palms and the front of the body, or the hostile attitude will remain.

Sitting at the table palms down: Dominant Palm Position - When the palm is turned to face downwards, you will have immediate authority. The person to whom you have directed the request feels that he has been given an order to remove the box and may feel antagonistic towards you, depending on your relationship with him. For example, if the person to whom you gave the request was a co-worker of equal status, he could reject your palm-down request and would be more likely to carry out your wish if you had used the palm-up position. If the person to whom you give the request is your subordinate, the palm-down gesture is acceptable, as you have the authority to use it.

Praying gesture palms together: The pseudo-prayer is usually an extremely patronizing gesture. This is followed again by the Palm down gesture again.

So now how do you guys think this meeting went? Gestures can't lie like the mouth, without looking very awkward. Which some of his gestures and posture do look awkward at times in the video...but seeing how he was outnumbered in the meeting it could have been from trying to hide some nervousness about the event.

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posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 02:21 AM
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Hand shake jitters, now I have heard it all



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 02:35 AM
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What's up with the amount of Ahmedinejad lovers on this forum??


I'd bet none of them living in Iran though... That'd be just a tad too harsh...



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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Iran played a part in the creation of the Zionist regime to cover up its own past crimes.


What are you talking about ?

I really like to know



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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I see people get emotional and change their view fast.

That means their old idea has been irrational or with no sufficient investigation.

Ahmadinejad is not a war-monger but he is not prophet.

This regime of Iran should follow the path of 12th Imam or it will fade away like former regimes.

Thank god that there are many religious people who are patient and hopeful to let equality and justice come to them.

Iran was not a friendly and humanitarian regime in past.

But after the Islamic Revolution we decided to change our attitude and our demands.

That is where the Islamic awakening should be going.

After Islamic Revolution , western countries helped and encouraged Saddam to invade Iran.

Allah helped us if he wills and we didn't lose one millimeter of our land.

We trust in him and will not sit back and surrender.

Western sanctions and fight and weaponry will not help them.

We stand for equality and justice , you better do it ,too.

peace



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 03:04 AM
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Originally posted by loOranks
What's up with the amount of Ahmedinejad lovers on this forum??


I'd bet none of them living in Iran though... That'd be just a tad too harsh...


Why? because you have had experience living there yourself? Tell us what it was like....



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 04:13 AM
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OK, lots of opinions posted as fact there.

Hamas, historically, only exists BECAUSE of Israel:

en.wikipedia.org...

If there was a Palestinian state, a proper one, not the jail they currently live in, then groups like Hamas would not have as much power as they currently do, at all. If you look at the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, they went from terrorist group to political party, but only when they were ALLOWED to go into politics. Plus, go read up on Said Qotb and learn some history.

As for Iran constantly making threats, so does Israel, they both do, endlessly. So does the US.

But here, how many wars has the nation of Iran started? How many has the US?

As for ancestors being buried in the land, the same can be said for many "tribes".

en.wikipedia.org...

Lot's of dead Romans in that soil as well, is it Italian property then?

You're right that no one is innocent, but right now Israel is def the "bad guy" in this scenario. They have broken many many promises, have killed many many more civilians, continue to steal land, and continue to ignore the Geneva Convention... oh yeah, and don't forget repeatedly bombing UN lookout positions...

They also have a lot of nerve complaining about the Palestinian use of terrorism to create a state when their own history is of a state created with terrorism.

en.wikipedia.org...

That's pro-Israeli terrorists bombing a civilian target, to try and win their freedom from the Brits... sounds a LOT like what Hamas has done...



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 04:45 AM
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Well that's some good breakdown there.

The bottom line here is that these "Jews" are paying tribute to the man they perceive as the ...leader of the force that will destroy Israel and usher in the messiah, they fear him, in a way they are bargaining for their lives asking to be "spared" These guys take this biblical horse spew to an epic level they go to a place where they are going to be the last "true Jews"

They are sad, pathetic men imho, I can't stand them and i've known plenty of them personally I find them strange and to be among the stupidest Jews in the world, while I do think Zionism is ridiculous the majority of Israelis and Jews in general are very bright people, in Williamsburg these people keep gates over windows on their apartments with small ledges to isolate their children and from the outside it looks like they are in cages that's how isolated they are from society and the world at large, they are among the most ridiculous fanatics in the world.



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