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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
Let me ask you this if trickle down works so well then why are we in such bad shape?


How many years have we been trying that plan.

Bush SR called it vodoo economics.


Maybe we just need more tax cuts is that what you are saying?

Maybe this time it will work. Yeah right give me a break.
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Trickle down works American companies are investing abroad they are not investing here the reason why they are is it is cheaper to do business there than here.

China was a third world country close to it and less than 20 years look at them now.

That is trickle down wealth every "social" program" does the exact opposite of what they think it will do.




posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Oh great so all we need to do is lower wages to penny’s on the dollar get rid of all the unions do away with any human rights buss people into factories put up nets outside of those factories you know for the suicides then we can be just like China and businesses will come back. We can have working conditions just like the ones Romney talked about when he visited that Chinese factory he helped outsource those jobs to.

Oh joy is that all we have to do.

Oh don’t forget we need to do away with all those nasty corporate taxes.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Scraps from the table economics does not work.

An affulent middle class does.


Every time a dollar is spent in our economy, this is usually a taxable event, and tax revenue will rise. So it makes sense that when the Middle Class is doing well, more money is being spent on optional items, there is more money floating around in the economy, and tax revenues will rise.



Anyway you look at it, if our government spends money, we support the middle class. If the wealthy class is given more tax breaks and continue to pay a lower tax rate than most of the rest of us, then that money ends up overseas and is taken out of our economy which hurts everyone except the wealthy class.



Look at the 90's for solutions - This was a time when everyone prospered. When taxes were raised on the wealthy, tax revenues rose, the middle class prospered, and the budget was balanced. When we followed the "trickle down" policies of the 2000's (lower taxes for the wealthy and corporations), the middle class stagnated, and governmental services were cut.

Trickle Up Economics and the need to Recycyle Money



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Grimpachi
Let me ask you this if trickle down works so well then why are we in such bad shape?


How many years have we been trying that plan.

Bush SR called it vodoo economics.


Maybe we just need more tax cuts is that what you are saying?

Maybe this time it will work. Yeah right give me a break.
edit on 26-9-2012 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)


Let's cut to the chase then. So you think people keeping their own money is a bad thing?


No its that Romney is a lying piece of # that will only hurt the economy by lowering the taxes even more and cuting every social net program to pay for his ultra wealthy buddies.


So you're in favour of raising taxes. Basically creating an environment where people have less of their own money.

Okay.



So your in favor of the economy colapsing completly and never paying off the deficit.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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How is it when Clinton left office there was a booming economy and a 2 trillion dollar surpluss but we cut taxes under Bush and when he leaves office we are in a recession and we owe more money than we ever have in history. Why didn't those tax cuts create more jobs and boost the economy into the heavens. Yeah trickle down works great just look at the proof.
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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Oh, I'd love to pay off the debt.

*ahem*

QUIT SPENDING




posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
How is it under when Clinton left office there was a booming economy and a 2 trillion dollar surpluss but we cut taxes under Bush and when he leaves office we are in a recession and we owe more money than we ever have in history. Why didn't those tax cuts create more jobs and boost the economy into the heavens. Yeah trickle down works great just look at the proof.


Tell you what, we put the tax rate at Clinton levels, AND use the same budget spenting during Clintons time.

Fair?



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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Trickle down fairy tale you guys should love it.




posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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That would be fine with me.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Actually I have investments as well and do fairly good with them.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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So as long as Americans get what they want screw everyone else.

Who cares about anyone else.eh.

Meh



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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So as long as Americans get what they want screw everyone else.

Who cares about anyone else.eh.

Meh


That pretty much seems to be the case doesn't it?

costofwar.com...

Perhaps there's a good place to "cut spending" unless you are in the military, a military contractor, or weapons manufacturer.
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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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So in the last decade have any idea how much has been spent on entitlement programs?

The largest tax payer expense hell current federal spending alone is $2.5 trillion dollars.

So please,



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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So in the last decade have any idea how much has been spent on entitlement programs?

The largest tax payer expense hell current federal spending alone is $2.5 trillion dollars.

So please,


Entitlement Programs like Social security, Medicare, Medicaid etc. I paid into those programs my entire working life.

So please....



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by olaru12
 


So in the last decade have any idea how much has been spent on entitlement programs?

The largest tax payer expense hell current federal spending alone is $2.5 trillion dollars.

So please,




Yes, I went there. Nice riposte' Neo.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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You paid 6% someone else matched that amount and yeah you paid for what 20,30 years?

Only to get a monthly stipend for 10 if your lucky,



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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What people don't understand about social security is that it is the government (by virtue of what they give you) gets to determine where you live, what you eat, what you drink, what you drive, what you do, from what they give you "back".



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Yep, a follow up Got some nice purdy graphics:





Reminds one of "a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have".

The piper is knocking on the door saying "feed me Seymour".



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
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Actually I have investments as well and do fairly good with them.


So how do you feel about your tax increase going up 33% in one year? Just curious. You know, you probably aren't paying enough in taxes, you should write your Congressman and tell him to support a 50% Capital Gains rate.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by pavil

Originally posted by Grimpachi
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Actually I have investments as well and do fairly good with them.


So how do you feel about your tax increase going up 33% in one year? Just curious. You know, you probably aren't paying enough in taxes, you should write your Congressman and tell him to support a 50% Capital Gains rate.


I too have made some fairly wise investments thanks to a well rounded liberal education and blind luck...

But as Leona Helmsley said...




only the little people pay taxes


the tax code favors those who know the secrets...

money.msn.com...

And anyone that thinks the tax codes are going to change to be more fair to the middle class, is an idiot...because the rich people write the tax codes; not the plebeians.
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