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Mahmud Ahmadinedschad and the Holocaust

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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 04:44 AM
Mahmud Ahmadinedschad is cunning individual, when he speaks about the Holocaust and Israel the way he does, then because he's fully aware of the historical inconsistencies, the collaboration between the Zionist Movement and Nazi Germany and the role it had played in the creation of the State of Israel. He is fully aware of this:

The Zionist record in relation to the holocaust was the logical outcome of a movement which, throughout the war, and in the face of the Nazi exterminations, prioritised above everything the building of a Jewish state.

At a time when Jews, trade unionists and anti-fascists were launching a worldwide economic boycott of Nazi Germany, the World Zionist Organisation was secretly negotiating an economic agreement which allowed richer German Jews to liquidate their property in Germany and redeem part of the money in Palestine. This agreement was announced by the Nazis shortly before the 18th Zionist congress in Prague, in September 1933.

Having this knowdledge and the fact, that the large majority of the 'West' and especially the jewish community world wide have repeatedly missed the opportunity to discuss this part of history openly, enables him to counter a myth with another myth, offering a little truth to disguise the lies and cover the true intentions.

In that regard, one could argue, what Ahmadinedschad says makes sense. But does it really?

“Even today, in a perverse way, a real anti-semite must be a Zionist.” - A.B. Yehoshua, Israeli novelist

Zionism and Anti-Semitism

posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 05:45 AM
When Mahmud Ahmadinejad speaks of the holocaust he mainly questions why was land stolen from the Palestinians to form Israel. Why was he even mentioned in this thread? The article you posted has nothing to do with him but rather how the Zionist collaborated with the Nazis.

posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 06:08 AM

Originally posted by buster2010
When Mahmud Ahmadinejad speaks of the holocaust he mainly questions why was land stolen from the Palestinians to form Israel. Why was he even mentioned in this thread? The article you posted has nothing to do with him but rather how the Zionist collaborated with the Nazis.

The thread is to illustrate, that Ahmadinejads version of history is no more true, than the version found in most history books. To let him become an authority for historical facts, is not aiding the people in palestine, israel and the rest of the world and his reasoning is as dangerous as that of his political counterparts in israel and in western administrations.

These people are hardliners, to defend one against the other is madness. Their main interest is not peace or peaceful coexistence.

posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 01:02 PM
This article illustrates perhaps best that the hostilities between jews and muslims are in fact real and the that ongoing diverson between both cultures is deliberately created, by the actions and rhetoric from certain individuals and groups on both sides.

Things like this make the situation so sick and twisted, with this it becomes possible, by singling out the version of only one side, that the respective arguments, in a perverse way, actually make sense.

If Ahmadinejad was really the man of peace and reason he's made out to be, i would imagine him to say something along the lines of:

"The Holocaust was a genocide, a horrendous crime against humanity, enacted with utmost cruelty and with the sole purpose to exterminate as many people as possible. We mourn for the victims, for all of them and our hearts and prayers are with the families of those who have died and with those who have survived the horror. We know history, but it is not our obligation to judge, but to condemn the perpetrators, all of them, but we also condemn those who exploit history for their own political and religous agendas...."

In a despicable sequel to the Mohammed cartoon controversy, in which thousands of Muslims took to the streets earlier this year in protest of cartoons in a Danish newspaper depicting the prophet Mohammed, Iran's Culture Ministry named the "winners" of a contest for editorial cartoons attacking Jews and the Holocaust.

a parody of Auschwitz

please remember - honor the truth, deny ignorance

posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 04:36 PM
Voices of Reason

There are Muslim intellectuals, some of them outspoken supporters of the Palestinians, who have argued that Muslims cannot remain indifferent to the Nazi bid to annihilate an entire people everywhere and forever through industrialised mass murder for the sole reason of their religion. As one British Muslim politician wrote in response to calls by some to boycott the Holocaust Memorial Day in Britain, "We should be part of [the Holocaust Memorial Day] because our refusal merely gives succour to those who peddle prejudice and lies about the Holocaust. And we should be part of it because it is right to remember the millions of our fellow human beings who died at the hands of a racist and supremacist ideology."

a call to conscience

The Iranian opposition on Friday labeled President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust "political adventurism," saying to unnecessarily harmed Iran's international standing.

"The Holocaust is a historic event and we [reformists] do not deny it, but more important is that the issue has nothing to do with us," the spokesman said.


Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu cheapened the memory of the Holocaust in his speech to the United Nations General Assembly on Thursday. He did so twice. Once, when he brandished proof of the very existence of the Holocaust, as if it needed any, and again when he compared Hamas to the Nazis.

If Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust, Netanyahu cheapens it. Is there a need of proof, 60 years later? Or, the world might think, is the denier right?

And if we can compare a poorly equipped terrorist organization to the horrific Nazi killing machine, why should others not compare the Nazis' behavior to that of Israel Defense Forces soldiers? In both cases, the comparison is baseless and infuriating.


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