QE3: Is America becoming a company town?

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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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The following cartoon explains how America may be becoming something akin to a company town. This little xtranormal movie is the only place where I've heard this point made, what do you think?

www.youtube.com...

I've searched both the news media and reactions from individuals about quantitative easing three and the only person I've found who is discussing the importance of the Federal Reserve almost certainly owning all the mortgaged property in the USA is Lindsey Williams.


They (the "elite") will eventually own every piece of mortgaged real estate in the United States of America and you are sitting back letting 'em do it and not protesting. I hope you caught that. Every piece of mortgage real estate in the United States of America as the Federal Reserve continues 40 billion dollars every month. Eventually they will have bought every piece of mortgaged real estate in America and when they depreciate the value of the dollar to the point you can't pay your mortgage they will repossess and all the New World Order wants to do is they will turn around and rent you back your house for the rest of your days. They'll rent it to your children, they'll rent it to your grandchildren, and they will be slaves in the hands of the elite if you don't stop them immediately... —Lindsey Williams

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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:24 AM
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Never underestimate the stupidity of an American.

Why isn't this shouted out to everyone? Because they don't care.

You can see all the socialist/communist postings on this website of late.

People have been dumbed down to moronic.

There was a headline "House prices have gone up" People are so stupid they can't see that the dollar is being devalued, and it will continue to be devalued until a loaf of bread costs $100.00 due to QE3.

Just some more idiotic votes for the bozo in chief.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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Never underestimate the stupidity of an American.

Why isn't this shouted out to everyone? Because they don't care.

You can see all the socialist/communist postings on this website of late.

People have been dumbed down to moronic.

There was a headline "House prices have gone up" People are so stupid they can't see that the dollar is being devalued, and it will continue to be devalued until a loaf of bread costs $100.00 due to QE3.

Just some more idiotic votes for the bozo in chief.


This isn't as simple as "They don't care" and stupidity doesn't explain it either (there's plenty of brilliant analysts out there). A google search for QE3 gives 39,100,000 results. There's plenty of discussion about QE3 out there. The American people care about QE3.

What I can't understand is why Lindsey Williams is the only "analyst" (and his qualifications as an analyst are suspect), pointing out this obvious thing that is dangerous and important which is that the Fed will eventually own every piece of mortgaged real estate in the United States of America because of QE3.

Either the other analysts are being forced or paid not to discuss this or they're in denial, there's plenty of brilliant people out there, why are they all missing this crucial point?

Maybe QE3 is the financial Fukushima? An event that literally could change an entire country and possibly the world as we know it but hardly anyone will talk about the most important issues involved?
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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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I've been waiting to re-finance my mortgage for 2 years now, knowing that the current gov't is wanting to hold every mortgage in Fannie or Freddie, or whatever new name they come up with. And I'm still waiting to see what the actural fallout will be.

There was a recent article in the Chicago Tribune? about a gov't agency going after people that "strategically" walked away from mortgages, or even worse, walked away from a mortgage, rented out the property, and collected the money themselves, while not paying the mortgage.

This is going to get very ugly. It would seem the gov't is attempting to make everyone of us some kind of criminal.

I am not saying that pulling a "scam" is o.k. - I wouldn't ever do it, but I haven't allowed myself to be put into a situation like that. I still have a job.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 03:57 AM
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I really hate what America becomes.....It doest take long for our peasant Australian government to follow suit.

For some reason our pollies have no idea what hind sight is .....



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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I've been waiting to re-finance my mortgage for 2 years now, knowing that the current gov't is wanting to hold every mortgage in Fannie or Freddie, or whatever new name they come up with. And I'm still waiting to see what the actural fallout will be.

There was a recent article in the Chicago Tribune? about a gov't agency going after people that "strategically" walked away from mortgages, or even worse, walked away from a mortgage, rented out the property, and collected the money themselves, while not paying the mortgage.

This is going to get very ugly. It would seem the gov't is attempting to make everyone of us some kind of criminal.

I am not saying that pulling a "scam" is o.k. - I wouldn't ever do it, but I haven't allowed myself to be put into a situation like that. I still have a job.


How do you feel about the fact that the Federal Reserve is going to almost surely own all the mortgaged real estate in America?

I was discussing this on another forum and some person was saying that QE3 isn't that significant of a change in terms of mortgages because banks have always owned mortgages.

However, with QE3 we're talking about one privately owned corporation owning all the mortgaged property in the USA. This same privately held corporation also controls the money supply. I can't say exactly what the ramifications will be but it's not business as usual by any means.



"The Federal Reserve will own your house. I'm saying this slow because it's so startling until the average American would be in the streets rioting today if they had the slightest idea of what the ramifications of all of this is." - Lindsey Williams


You can listen to the interview where that quote came from here:

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by scubagravy
I really hate what America becomes.....It doest take long for our peasant Australian government to follow suit.

For some reason our pollies have no idea what hind sight is .....


How can any of this be a surprise when we have quotes like the following which is over 200 years old!

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

—Thomas Jefferson, 1802



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 04:09 AM
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Federal Reserve owning all the mortgages is communism, they control what "money" is worth. You are beholden to whatever they're whim is. One might as well say there is no private ownership of property.

We are not free persons, we are slaves.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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Federal Reserve owning all the mortgages is communism


I don't agree. In Russia and China the respective governments claim ownership of all the land in the country.

However, this situation is different. The US government owns about 30% of the land in America. Then there are individuals, families, companies, and corporations who own property which has no mortgage attached to it.

So, from what I can see, we're talking about the Federal Reserve owning all the property that's not either owned by the US government or a local government or an individual, family, or company (outside of the Fed).

In a communist country the government usually claims all the land, this is different but it's still very scary.
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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by infiniteclarity

How can any of this be a surprise................!?



Because people don't learn from history.

I was going to rip you for posting a cartoon, but I thought better of it.Here

This is what people need to see if they want to educate themselves on the reality of what's going on. You can't change the game, or win, if you don't know the rules. And you can't put your head in the sand either and expect it not to impact you. And you certainly can't expect Spock to tell you. C'mon man.

You either play this game or this game plays you.

Here's a real life example. True story.

There's a company here in America, a rather large one, who pays their employees at their distribution centers a decent base wage. Every week employees can earn a bonus based on their performance. They track your performance via the scanners you use to scan the product into the warehouse. Simply put, the more you scan the more you earn. without going into detail here, they take time management to a whole new level.

This system is like many others in that there are ways to tell the system you're doing more then what you are. One employee figured that out and used that "shortcut" for many years. For years on end he was earning bonuses that equaled an extra paycheck because he "told" the system that he was doing a certain amount of work. After being employed there for a short time and learning how everything worked, I came to the realization that what he was telling the system he was doing, was physically impossible. Superman couldn't have done it.

I'm not going to say how here, but when this happens, and he wasn't the only employee who did it, that takes money out of the pockets of other employees via the profit sharing program. Long story short, Someone sent an e-mail to corporate detailing what he did and busted him because he was ultimately taking money out of the profit sharing till, putting it in his pocket and out of 'someone' else's. In essence, he was taking their money. You don't do that and get away with it forever.

This is, ultimately, what the Federal Reserve is doing. They're playing a shell game with dollar signs....constantly shifting things around to keep the ledgers looking healthy so the whole house of cards don't collapse.........and putting more money in their pockets at the same time. And just like with that company, computer based inventory and financial programs don't see the reality of the situation if they're not programmed to. And most aren't. The reality is that the most you can do on the computer is prop things up. You can make things look better then what they really are. The real work comes from offline and it should be clear to everyone that these two "systems" aren't working in sync. How can they be when you're telling the system you're doing something that is monetarily impossible and the system doesn't realize it? It's because the computer systems aren't designed to recognize physical capabilities. Not in this regard. They're out of touch with reality by design. You want to get to the bottom of all this? Find out who designs those programs.

There are people who get that, and GOD do I love them for that. They've gotten it for years and they play it to their advantage. The problem is, some of the one's who get it and use it, don't use it for positive purposes. And you can bet your bottom dollar they aren't going to tell anyone what they're doing. You have to figure it out for yourself. That's why I posted that link. That's why that employee got busted. People like me don't like to see people taking advantage of others, so we figure out what we can and shine a light on it. If they have a problem with it, too bad. Come see me. Or they can take it to their boss's boss because they damn well people like me will. The same type who was went to because it was known they would do something about it because they were getting ripped off too. There is strength in numbers if you crunch them right.

You want to solve the economic problems TPTB are producing? Learn the game, the players and play them all like a piano for the good of it all. If people like me can do it, anyone can. And yes, I am a part of a management team within the U.S. and, yes, I get along with my peers just fine. We all agree on one thing: Everything in this country needs to go back to being performance based.....not what's put on a computer screen.

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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by Taupin Desciple
I was going to rip you for posting a cartoon


Do a search on youtube for "Quantitative Easing" and the video with the most views by far is titled "Quantitative Easing Explained". It has 5,368,693 views and 20,702 likes. That video has over 3 million views more than the next highest "Quantitative Easing" video!!!

It's an Xtranormal cartoon! Here it is, if you don't believe me:

www.youtube.com...

Times change, get with the times. It's not about what method you use to get the message out, it's about the message itself and reaching as many people as possible. If you don't realize that, I don't know what's wrong with you.

I'm so insulted by what you said I'll read your post in detail later. Wow.
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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Taupin Desciple
This is, ultimately, what the Federal Reserve is doing. They're playing a shell game with dollar signs....constantly shifting things around to keep the ledgers looking healthy so the whole house of cards don't collapse.........and putting more money in their pockets at the same time. And just like with that company, computer based inventory and financial programs don't see the reality of the situation if they're not programmed to. And most aren't. The reality is that the most you can do on the computer is prop things up. You can make things look better then what they really are. The real work comes from offline and it should be clear to everyone that these two "systems" aren't working in sync. How can they be when you're telling the system you're doing something that is monetarily impossible and the system doesn't realize it? It's because the computer systems aren't designed to recognize physical capabilities. Not in this regard. They're out of touch with reality by design. You want to get to the bottom of all this? Find out who designs those programs.


Of course there's truth to what you're saying.

QE3 is different though. At $40 Billion/month how long will it take before the Federal Reserve will own every mortgaged property in the USA?

This is unprecedented and it goes a lot further than just propping up the dollar. You've got a privately owned corporation buying up all that property with no real money whatsoever, it's all make-believe.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Exactly. Thanks to Taupin and you for helping me to understand it better. In the comment section from his link in the post above yours...


That said we're running out of the ammo... Pork filled & rushed $780 bil stimulus is winding down, interest rate near zero for the foreseeable future and debt time bombs from 2008 deferred via pumping of cheap money from the Central banks, etc. Next in line is QE followed by printing USD like there's no tomorrow. This $$$ printing may stem the deflation spiral and quickly become the inflation monster triggering the STAGFLATION. And VOILA people will realize it's all FIAT currencies and collapse of all currencies sans precious metal. Coming sooner than later along with Great Depression II.

Read more: www.businessinsider.com...



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by intrptr
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Exactly. Thanks to Taupin and you for helping me to understand it better. In the comment section from his link in the post above yours...


That said we're running out of the ammo... Pork filled & rushed $780 bil stimulus is winding down, interest rate near zero for the foreseeable future and debt time bombs from 2008 deferred via pumping of cheap money from the Central banks, etc. Next in line is QE followed by printing USD like there's no tomorrow. This $$$ printing may stem the deflation spiral and quickly become the inflation monster triggering the STAGFLATION. And VOILA people will realize it's all FIAT currencies and collapse of all currencies sans precious metal. Coming sooner than later along with Great Depression II.

Read more: www.businessinsider.com...


This except is also ignoring the big issue I'm trying to point out: At some point during QE3 the Fed will almost certainly own every mortgaged property in the US. Who's talking about that crucial point?



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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This except is also ignoring the big issue I'm trying to point out: At some point during QE3 the Fed will almost certainly own every mortgaged property in the US. Who's talking about that crucial point?

I thought that was the whole point. In the end they wind up with everything. Right?

I agree with you. They want all tangible assets. They want the gold, the land, the guns, the power and control...everything.

They want to be king with everyone else in servitude. Long live the King.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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I'd like to point out that in communism, the Russians, or Chinese, own the land. If the dollar is so devalued, and people can't pay the taxes on the land their buildings are on, the US will then confiscate the land -- communism.

Also, wasn't there something about the Aurora movie theatre killers dad was going to testify in Congress about a computer algorythm he had devised to keep tabs on how banks were moving money around to make it look like they were more solvent than they really were?

He ended up not testifying - if you believe the "story".



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by infiniteclarity

This except is also ignoring the big issue I'm trying to point out: At some point during QE3 the Fed will almost certainly own every mortgaged property in the US. Who's talking about that crucial point?


Some people call that communism. It would be if it were politically motivated. In this case, in my opinion, it's not. It's money driven which makes it a business move. Any business man worth his paycheck will tell you that a diversified portfolio is safer then one that's not.

Some people think that since the Feds have their fingers in so many pies, they do have a diverse portfolio. And they just might, but buying most if not all of one pie, real estate, is just bad business. You can have 10 different investments, but that doesn't mean you have to own all of any given one. You let others get a piece of each pie. And that's not conceding parts of your wealth to others, that's spreading YOUR own wealth around. The smart investor will make sure that not all 10 of those investments are relevant to each other as well. If you invest in computer chips, invest also in something like transportation. Those 2 aren't interlocked to where if one goes south, the other will follow. Follow me?

But this is what greed does OP. It's blinds people to the reality that it's simply good business to share the wealth. It keeps the entire sector of business healthy because there's constant competition. But I guess when you doubt your own abilities, you don't want to compete with other people.

And that, OP, is the problem with the Feds. Not only are they greedy, they're incompetent. And you can take THAT to the bank.




posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by Taupin Desciple

Originally posted by infiniteclarity

This except is also ignoring the big issue I'm trying to point out: At some point during QE3 the Fed will almost certainly own every mortgaged property in the US. Who's talking about that crucial point?


Some people call that communism. It would be if it were politically motivated. In this case, in my opinion, it's not. It's money driven which makes it a business move. Any business man worth his paycheck will tell you that a diversified portfolio is safer then one that's not.

Some people think that since the Feds have their fingers in so many pies, they do have a diverse portfolio. And they just might, but buying most if not all of one pie, real estate, is just bad business. You can have 10 different investments, but that doesn't mean you have to own all of any given one. You let others get a piece of each pie. And that's not conceding parts of your wealth to others, that's spreading YOUR own wealth around. The smart investor will make sure that not all 10 of those investments are relevant to each other as well. If you invest in computer chips, invest also in something like transportation. Those 2 aren't interlocked to where if one goes south, the other will follow. Follow me?

But this is what greed does OP. It's blinds people to the reality that it's simply good business to share the wealth. It keeps the entire sector of business healthy because there's constant competition. But I guess when you doubt your own abilities, you don't want to compete with other people.

And that, OP, is the problem with the Feds. Not only are they greedy, they're incompetent. And you can take THAT to the bank.



I don't understand your post, the Federal Reserve is a privately held corporation and they are not part of "the Feds". Furthermore, as I pointed out earlier, Thomas Jefferson predicted the QE3 scenario over 200 years ago:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

—Thomas Jefferson, 1802



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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Hi I wanted to introduce myself as this is my first reply having just joined ATS. My name is Lynn Chase and I have been researching the financial fraudageddon since 2009. Yes the quote you refer to is quite accurate and this information is not new. Unfortunately Americans were lulled into state of denial and the bias of normalcy. No one questioned the financial system and where money came from or what gave it value. The housing bubble was a created scheme to transfer the wealth and real assets to the global elite the international banksters, the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bilderbergs et al. Money never disappears, it only transfers. This was all done purposefully and intentionally. It is thee biggest story never told (well rarely anyway). The entire banking system is set up to rob us, it is not new and we experience a created depression about every 100 years. The banks have the luxury of time to plan not in 5 year or 10 year or even 20 year increments. No they plan in 100 year increments.
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company.

If only enough people did understand what is happening, and has been happening for quite some time... I would like to post a link to a Playlist about the international banking crime syndicate. I hope that the members here will find the playlist educational informative and entertaining. It is a playlist of videos I have found, they are not my videos just fyi. Hope this is allowed, it is on point and a useful resource. It is ad free videos so no monetary benefit or anything. This is just a topic I have been researching for several years now and my obsession if you will.
The housing scam consisted of the brokers (Lehman's, JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs etc.)pre selling mortgage back securities via a prospectus on over valued underlying assets (they did not even own) they did not secure the Notes with the deeds in a secure REMIC Trust, and instead chopped up the Notes and hid the sales via a bank created entity called MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System) which they used as a straw man by making this "MERS" the beneficiary on 62 million homes in the US alone, they do this all over the world) They provided made up loan numbers on a spread to the SEC as proof of the "loans" and table funded the homes with investor dollars taking huge fees on gigantic billion dollar pools of Notes. (There is now a quadrillion dollars in outstanding housing derivatives debt to sift through) For example, Goldman Sachs sells a pool of mortgage back securities for 1 billion dollars and take their 30% cut in fees or 300 million dollars. This leave 700 million dollars they actually "fund" the Notes, now the homes supposedly were worth 700 million dollars backing the value of these Notes but as we since found out those were fake "bubble prices only based on the high demand for those MBS's. Now that same pool of homes is worth a fraction of that or about 300 millions. Who is going to pay the difference for the banksters bad bets? The taxpayer of course. With every dollar the Fed prints to buy up the toxic Notes! Not to mention that the banks also get the house back and get to go after the homeowner for the deficiency, and the homeowner that loses the home and all their equity (that the banks stole the day the borrower closed escrow) soon will have to pay the IRS taxes on the "forgiven" amount that they still owe after the bank repossesses the home and sells it for it's true current market value. They also have a new scam where the banks only sell to big time investors thus cutting the chance for the middle class to buy up a cheap house. They are also cheating the IRS because since they never actually secured the Note with the Deed in a TAX FREE flow through REMIC Trust, PRIOR to Securitizing the Notes, they owe TAX on EVERY NOTE THE SOLD EVERY TIME THEY SOLD IT. You think Erik Holder the US attorney general will do anything about it? No way, he used to be all the Too crooked to fail banks ATTORNEY! He helped them CREATE MERS! His former clients, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citibank, et al. There is so much to say on this topic. The rabbit hole goes deep. Here is the link to the Playlist.
www.youtube.com...

If this is not allowed please let me know I won't do it again but this is so important for people to know why we are going through what we are going through. It's because it was planned that way. Bottom line is they gambled with OPM then pass the losses to the taxpayer and steal the asset. Iceland is the only country so far to fire their government and arrest the bankers and forgive all the fraudulent so called "loans" that were never loans.



posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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I'd like to point out that in communism, the Russians, or Chinese, own the land. If the dollar is so devalued, and people can't pay the taxes on the land their buildings are on, the US will then confiscate the land -- communism.


That's an interesting conspiracy theory but can you produce any evidence that the US government wants communism?

For mortgaged properties people will default on their mortgages before they fail to pay their property taxes most of the time so we'll still end up with the Federal Reserve owning a tremendous amount of properties either way.
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