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Originally posted by Char-Lee
Obama’s Science Adviser Says Chemtrails Will Save the Planet
Holdren sees geo-engineering as a perfectly viable way to cool the planet’s temperature. He fully supports the process of releasing particles of barium, magnesium, aluminum, nano-fibers, bacillus blood spores and other chemicals to reflect sunlight away from the Earth.
The National Institute of Health has found that geo-engineering is directly responsible for neurotoxins found in human blood, lungs; as well as causing a whole host of neurotoxic conditions such as multiple sclerosis.
I don't agree with all of this article, I believe the arctic ice is melting for instance, but this shows they have no problem with spraying the population.
occupycorporatism.com...
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Secondly although it is neither here not there...cloud seeding IS done in numerous ways..here is a cloud seeding plane. Just ONE of the types used. But this again is not the point, the spraying the did here was not seeding any clouds!
www.nawcinc.com...
Holdren sees geo-engineering as a perfectly viable way to cool the planet’s temperature. He fully supports the process of releasing particles of barium, magnesium, aluminum, nano-fibers, bacillus blood spores and other chemicals to reflect sunlight away from the Earth.
I said that the approaches that have been surfaced so far seem problematic in terms of both efficacy and side effects, but we have to look at the possibilities and understand them because if we get desperate enough it will be considered. I also made clear that this was my personal view, not Administration policy. Asked whether I had mentioned geo-engineering in any White House discussions, though, I said that I had. This is NOT the same thing as saying the White House is giving serious consideration to geo-engineering – which it isn’t — and I am disappointed that the headline and the text of the article suggest otherwise.
You said there is no proof things are being sprayed...there are a ton of diffident people and corps and gov spraying and there is a ton of proof, if you don't want to see it fine.
"The study was secretive for reason. They didn't have volunteers stepping up and saying yeah, I'll breathe zinc cadmium sulfide with radioactive particles," said Martino-Taylor.
While the Army admits it added a florescent substance to the zinc cadmium compound, details of whether it was radioactive remains secretDocuments uncovered to date indicate the Army never conducted follow-up studies to see whether the compound caused long term health issues.
In 1972, after years of crime, poverty, and decline, the government destroyed the Pruitt -Igoe housing complex.
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Originally posted by Char-Lee
There is a TON of proof of spraying....
And this was years ago... and how much do we really know
The spraying of a potentially toxic chemical in several cities in Army tests in the 1950's and 60's apparently had no adverse health effects, a National Research Council committee said today.
In most of the Army tests, people were exposed to such small amounts of the compound that they would have been likely to get higher doses of cadmium from environmental and industrial sources, the report said.
''Even when we assume the worst about how this chemical might behave in the lungs, we conclude that people would be at a higher risk simply from living in a typical urban, industrialized area for several days or, in some cases, for months,'' Dr. Henderson said.
The committee said that exposure to the compound during the tests generally was very low and that the cadmium in the compound was in an insoluble form that made it hard for the body to absorb and retain.
Originally posted by Thorazine
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Secondly although it is neither here not there...cloud seeding IS done in numerous ways..here is a cloud seeding plane. Just ONE of the types used. But this again is not the point, the spraying the did here was not seeding any clouds!
www.nawcinc.com...
If cloud seeding is not the point- then why do you bring it up??
CLoud seeding as is done by the plane in your picture- and indeed as has been done around the world for decades- in the open- has NOTHING to do with supposed "chemtrails"
They do not "spray" anything- they burn ice flares into PRE-EXISTING rain clouds..
They do not use jets flying at high altitudes...
They do not leave persistent spreading trails...
Bringing up cloud seeding is just a strawman argument designed to distract from the fact that there is NO "proof" that a persistent contrail is really a "chemtrail"
Originally posted by AndyMayhew
Originally posted by Char-Lee
There is a TON of proof of spraying....
None of which is denied. But ZERO proof that any of it would manifest itself into what the ignorant and easily deluded call chemtrails. Indeed, there is ZERO evidence that whatever chemtrails might be, if they exist, they would be in any way visible from the ground. Though considerable evidence that they would not be, based on the various (often conflicting) suggesting as to what they are.
It's like arguing that unicorns must exist because there are lots of reports of people seeing sheep ....... And since people see sheep than unicorns must exist ........
Originally posted by Bodhi911
She claims there is a government document approving chemtrails being done, and that its being done in cooperation with United States and in particular, the NSA.
Originally posted by RobinB022
"The study was secretive for reason. They didn't have volunteers stepping up and saying yeah, I'll breathe zinc cadmium sulfide with radioactive particles," said Martino-Taylor.
While the Army admits it added a florescent substance to the zinc cadmium compound, details of whether it was radioactive remains secretDocuments uncovered to date indicate the Army never conducted follow-up studies to see whether the compound caused long term health issues.
In 1972, after years of crime, poverty, and decline, the government destroyed the Pruitt -Igoe housing complex.
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Source
And this was years ago... and how much do we really know
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Originally posted by Thorazine
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Secondly although it is neither here not there...cloud seeding IS done in numerous ways..here is a cloud seeding plane. Just ONE of the types used. But this again is not the point, the spraying the did here was not seeding any clouds!
www.nawcinc.com...
If cloud seeding is not the point- then why do you bring it up??
CLoud seeding as is done by the plane in your picture- and indeed as has been done around the world for decades- in the open- has NOTHING to do with supposed "chemtrails"
They do not "spray" anything- they burn ice flares into PRE-EXISTING rain clouds..
They do not use jets flying at high altitudes...
They do not leave persistent spreading trails...
Bringing up cloud seeding is just a strawman argument designed to distract from the fact that there is NO "proof" that a persistent contrail is really a "chemtrail"
AGAIN you clearly did NOT read the thread! I brought it up because the other poster said NOTHING is being sprayed at all! This is provable open spraying and it clearly IS done!
Why don't one of you smart people tell me what that grid pattern I showed you is for?
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by Char-Lee
And if they're spraying us secretly, where are the thousands of planes used? Why haven't we seen any pictures of them? Why haven't any of the thousands of people involved (from the people that modify the planes, to the people that service them, to the people that operate them) come forward? There are so many holes in the chemtrail theory that can't be plugged it isn't funny.
Originally posted by Char-Lee
what do you think the purpose of the grid pattern I watched them make, finish and leave...is for? Oh yes I forgot, these don't count as proof because it is only the word of the people who saw them made.