Ahmadinejad Defends Holocaust Denial at UN; Israel Walks Out, U.S. Sticks Around to Listen

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posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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reply to post by ClicheCalvicade
 


He is sane. He has done the research.




posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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reply to post by jazzguy
 


Don't agree that it was a lie. However I see the milking of the blood of the victims for propagandistic and to obtain sympathy to policies and Israel national interests to be of an extreme bad taste, this of course gets even more revolting when they act in a very inhumane way toward the Palestinians, it is almost like they have learned all the wrong lessons from Jewish historic experiences...

Ahmadinejad is stuck in defending a denial, since he can not call attention to most other victims especially homosexuals. The Russians also are in a bind because of Stalin, but one should give them credit for never attempting to milk it (they did do it a little bit after the war).



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 05:40 AM
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It is good that the US finally listens, but I worry it's all a game, politics as usual, and this is meant to make romney look better because obama is 'apologizing to the terrorists' or whatever.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 05:47 AM
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I haven't seen the UN speech, but I did just watch Ahmadinejads interview with Piers Morgan.

To me it doesn't seem like he is denying the Holocaust, just questioning Palestines involvement in it, but to those who can't see past the hate, he is just denying the full thing.

Again though, I never seen the UN speech, or any other "holocaust denying" moment.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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reply to post by woogleuk
 


The holocaust was Germany, not Palestine. He is not questioning Palestines involvement, he is saying it never happened.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 06:02 AM
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reply to post by OccamsRazor04
 


It was in Germany?? Are you kidding?? Wow, I never knew that, next you will tell me it was during the second world war too, the things you know huh.

All I was saying, listening to the interview with Piers Morgan, he was saying Palestine never had any involvement with it, I don't even know what alleged involvement he was referring, either way, I am just going by what I just listened to directly from the man.

EDIT: This is from the interview....(I have wrote this from listening to it, the interpreter was hard to understand at times, I think it was computerised.)


I pass no judgements about historic events. I say researchers and scholars must be free to conduct research and (unknown) about any historical event, and have contrary opinions, pros and cons. This should not have led to setting up of new confines and borderlines throughout the world, and classify some as good and some as bad.

Why should a researcher be put in jail, one question.

Question number 2, lets assume your parameter(?) is right, your question is right, your assumption is that this event took place, where did it take place? Whom were the individuals responsible for this event, what does this have to do with the occupation of Palestine? What role did the people of Palestine play in this event? These are very clear and transparent questions sir.

The third question I have, i f a historical event....if a historical event has indeed taken place, why so much sensitivity surrounding it by politicians?


Piers quickly and rudely interrupted and stopped him there.

To me that sounds like Palestine is getting some of the blame by politicians and historians, and he is denying their involvement, not denying the holocaust.
edit on 25/9/12 by woogleuk because: added info



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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I'd walk out too if that gobsh*te was prattling away with his inane nonsense, I've got far better things to do than listen to a religious zealot, who is the puppet of another religious zealot with massive chips on their shoulders, about how hard done to Iran are, their obvious false sense of entitlement, of course though Israel has exactly the same awful attitude. Still I cannot take someone seriously who denies the Holocaust, they are obvious fascist morons and Ahmedinijad is a fascist moron, with a small c*ck...probably.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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Just a reminder, the holocaust is a taboo subject on ats, there is a special off topic forum where ats likes to shove holocaust discussion under the rug.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Of course if it was up to me you could discuss whatever, but since my thread was rudely sacked for questioning the holocaust I would just like to point it out to everyone.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 06:53 AM
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That is you just trying to promote your thread.

ATS frowns upon people denying the holocaust (as rightly they should), or people trying to justify Hitler and the Nazi parties actions (again, as they should).

That is not what this thread is about, it is about a man outside of ATS who may, or may not have tried to deny it.

It is well within the ATS T&C and guidelines.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 07:19 AM
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What I picked up from the interview was that he said that people should allowed to investigate the true events in history. Not that he denied it, just that it was forbidden to research anything to do with it. Which is the truth. Any one who trys to get to the bottom of it all. Is either arrested or their carreers are destroyed and they are labeled as an anti semite. A bit strange that? Get arrested for trying to research history. And I also agree with him, its not the palistinians fault. So why should they lose their homes and land for something that they had nothing to do with.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
i am with Ahmadinejab on this one.

the holocaust was one big jewish lie







Are you serious?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
i am with Ahmadinejab on this one.

the holocaust was one big jewish lie



Dear god, here we go again.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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As a visual aid, here's a nice AP photo. The man in the lead, with the blue tag, is the Israeli envoy.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
i am with Ahmadinejab on this one.

the holocaust was one big jewish lie



Wow you have got to go to Germany and visit the KZ´s. Have you lost your marbles sir? Do you live under a rock?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by ClicheCalvicade

Originally posted by jazzguy
i am with Ahmadinejab on this one.

the holocaust was one big jewish lie



You are a big joke. And quite possibly insane too.


The holocaust was roughly 10% of the deaths in WW2. What about the other 90% who perished? Wheres our respect for them FFS???



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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Have you ever come to europe to visit the ww2 memorials?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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reply to post by hesse
 

Ask the Russians if the millions of emaciated bodies of Jews they encountered stacked up , and buried and burned were real . The films from Germany's own archives proves it .It would take a fanatical madman and liar to deny the mass murder of Jews called the Holocaust . The Poles were also killed in mass .
What Idiot would make such a claim ?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by hesse
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Have you ever come to europe to visit the ww2 memorials?



The way people go on about the Jews, its like they were the only victims in the war... And the only people who were gassed in the concentration camps.. Why can't we just forget about WW2, can't bring them back, can't change it... Move on FFS



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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These millions of emaciated bodies. They were all Jewish? not the occasional gypsy? or vagrant? or cripple? or other such undesirables like socialists or anarchists or gays?
To believe that all the victims of the Holocaust was Jewish is an abominable insult to all the others that died beside them in the gas chambers of Dachau.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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reply to post by DarknStormy
 

Your problem is going to be the Iranian Idiot who pushes Israel until we are in a nuclear war that will also include us . Even if the US was not hit you will not be able to buy energy or food because that war will kill our economy . When Wall Mart cant keep the trucks coming you have a problem .





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