reply to post by neo96
Iran has sent arms to Syria, they have sent arms to Lebanon. They have also sent arms to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Iran "has been around for 7-10 thousand years" just pay no attention that Iran changed its name after Hitler visited it.
Where Iranians get the idea that their culture has been around 7000-10,000 years is beyond me. Seriously. Our estimable history goes really no further
than the civilization of Sumer (4000 BCE). Elam is a little later, and even that is no more than 5000 years ago, or 3000 BCE. 7000 or 10000 is going
into make believe land, into the realm of myth, and not fact.
And yes, the obsession of the Germans with the concept of 'Aryan' had spiritual undertones to it that most people didn't quite pick up. An "Aryan" is
not only of some ethnic or racial type, but more importantly, they are the transmitters of the "Aryan" tradition, i.e. of the tradition of the ancient
Vedas, which the Puranas in the East and the Avestas in Iran. From Iran, this Indo European culture went westward and settled the European continent.
Now, Aryan means "any culture from Portugal, Spain and Britain in the west to Germany, Italy, Greece, in Europe, to Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
India, and Sri Lanka in the south; this 'Aryan" or Indo-european peoples are responsible for the greatest development in human civilization, in the
sciences, the arts, in philosophy and mysticism, these Aryans are the cream of the crop of mankind.
That was what Hitler and Himmler prided themselves on. That is why they returned to their pre-Judaized Aryan religion of ancient Germany, they were
identifying themselves AS ARYANS BECAUSE THEY SOUGHT TO IMPOSE THE ARYAN PERSONALITY on the nation of Germany, and then on Europe, and in the end, the
Iran also secretly prides itself in this. Shi'ite Islam is not so great a difference from ancient Zoroastrianism; there are similarities in
metaphysical outlook that makes the two of them, philosophically at least, very close. Only the outward focus and the symbols used - the Quran verse
the Avestas - Allah as unpresentable, Ahuramazda as manifest through fire, are different. But when you peer beneath you see philosophical sympathy.
Iran's leaders are just as "in" with the concept of the Aryan religion as Adolph Hitler and the nazis. Jesus, for a whole 80 years before the Nazis
came to power Europe was all ablaze in Theosophy and spiritualism and all this incredible stuff, all based upon Hindu and Buddhist thinking, combined
with ancient Gnosticism, Neoplatonism, Hermeticism, Alchemy, Kabbalah, Magic, etc. And just before the Nazis come to power you have the inspirational
Germanic music of Richard Wagner, veritably manifesting the spirit of Wotan in his music, conveying to young Germans, and Adolph Hitler especially, an
indicator of a future time when the spirit of Germany would be freed, unburdened by the gross addition of Jewish influence in Christianity and the
insulting presence of the Jews in Aryan lands. etc etc
This really is a major, even an unhealthy interest of many elites the world over. Magic, occultism, this fares into it as well.
The natural opposing worldview to the Aryan metaphysics is the Jewish metaphysics. The Jews see things differently, and this is manifest in both the
religions of Judaism and Christianity (and to a much lesser degree, Islam). God is a personality, first of all. Second, he cares about the world, and
about each individual human being. Third, he expects man to live rightly, to better himself through reason. Fourthly, he demands justice.
In this God-centered society, man is supplanted by God; instead of man dictating what is and isn't right, we submit ourselves to a divine framework
that obligates us through the very connection we feel with it to live consciously, to put the ethic of something before all other considerations.
The Aryan ethic, overall, is very pious and very devoted. Very sophisticated and immersed in spiritual psychology; but most of all, the Aryan ethic
weakens one sensitivity to the importance of moral living. If this world isn't real, then it's not of such pressing concern, is their general
attitude. This is not to condone murder, which is outlawed, of course, but it does permit all things in general, and this is present in the overall
conditions of their religious worship. This 'absolutism' or universalist ethic, when combined with a theistic religion that sees God as Pure
UNADULTERATED WILL, such as in Islam, you have a very serious and dangerous combination. They see only the one undifferentiated wholeness of Allah's
being. Nothing else exists besides him. You and I are mere automatons performing Allah's will. Everything is his will, and the Quran is his will. All
morality therefore derives from the Quran.
This is why you get such dangerous Islamic extremism.
Pay no attention that Isreal has "no roots" in the region"
Repeat a lie enough and eventually it will become to be believed.
Also, consider that this is already an oft repeated lie in the Iranian media. Israel has no 'history' in the land. They say this. Since the Iranian
media was surely telecasting this speech he had to stick to his punchline and keep up the perception of Israel as illegitimate because it was a bunch
of Europeans coming to the middle east. A place with no historical Jewish community (just 60 years ago the Arab world had a Sephardic population of 1
million) in the holy land - a name made popular by Judaism - with Jewish communities in Safed, Tiberias, Jerusalem (the most ancient continuous
inhabitants of this Jewish city), Gaza, Hebron, Ashkelon. It's a ridiculous, absurd boldface lie. And like a politician who doesn't give a # whether
something is true or false, he keeps up the reality.
Reminds me of those pathetic lies repeated by Goebells and Hitler and Himmler about Bolshevism and Capitalism being controlled by the Jews, and the
Jews engaging in human sacrifice (leaflets were poured over Eastern Europe saying this, to cultivate antisemitism) and all these other, repulsive evil
lies, lies that led directly to the gassing and cremation of human beings, actually forcing other of the poor wretches you torture to have to carry
the recently gassed bodies out of the gas chambers onto a trolly, and pulled to the cremation facility, where they would have to throw the bodies of
fellow Jews into cremation chambers. Watching the skin burn, the fat hiss as it burns, the flesh melt away and the internal organs eaten up by the
flames, and the head emitting two small flames from the burning eyes being fueled by the fat of the human brain.
That one little speech led to that repulsive, unbelievably haunting image, something nobody would ever want for themselves, the Germans imposed on the
Ahmadinejad is just repeating the same lies in order to foster Iranian delusions back home and continue to delegitimize Israel abroad, all with the
intention of trivializing the situation occurring; to create a sense of equivocation, indecision, allowing Iran more time to carry out their evil
But in anycase, Iran makes light of Israel..Its not a problem... no...What they mean is "Just attack us, we dare you" - the same thing said by any
other egomaniac who has every intention to fight, but wants you to be the one to start it..They want so badly to fight you, and in fact, he's creating
a scenario to force you to act, but once you act, he's getting let it all out on you. That's what Iran wants. They're itching to take out Israel, but
they want Israel to start it.
Not that obvious a tactic
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