reply to post by Maxmars
Not meaning to be confrontational, but... have you read what you're writing?
Don't worry, I can see the difference between veracity.
This is a quintessential mechanism of bias.
How is it that you know what anyone says behind closed doors, and between themselves? Are you eavesdropping on them? When did you survey Arab Muslims
do be able to make this assertion that they are totally hateful when it comes to race and religion?
It helps a lot when those people mistake you for one of their own. There's one thing they like more than speaking ill of the Jews and that is
speaking ill of the Jews to a listening ear ;-) In fact, I had one of them - a Turkish Muslim - claim that all of the worlds problems were Jewish in
cause(the idiot). Plus, how about having friends within these groups that are open about what goes on privately?(because they too are sick and tired)
Can I say you're wrong? No.... because you are making statements that only a participant in the chatter could make. And of course, that would
presume you have spoken to all (or at least the majority) of Arab Muslims.
You can say that I'm a liar and get on with your life. Anyone can do that. Just don't claim otherwise without having proof, while you know that you
don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's all.
What I do know is that I cannot easily accept you're position as factual - because no such people have ever existed. Even in the worst most
brutal conflicts between nations or cultures there are always copious examples of those who do not belong to the hate parade. There are always those
who know that man is man, and every way conceived to separate them is but a contrivance of the mind. Sort of like lines on a map.... they only matter
to those who seek to divide and separate.
Ah but I'm not claiming everyone of them is like that, in fact, I'm admitting that there are many in-fights to break free. They are just humans like
you and me, living under a system of Islamic law. Under a system that has a kind of social hierarchy going, that prevents people from leaving. It is a
system of chains. Much like how Catholicism used to be in the days they killed unbelievers and drowned "witches". Would you argue against the
people who revolted against Catholicism back in the day? Saying how: "All catholics are not the same." while the noose is tightened around your
neck? Of course they are not all the same. The point is; they can be forced to be the same through social pressure.
I know it is not easy to accept, all I'm saying is, if you're looking for the truth, then there it is.
You know that this is exactly what is said about Americans (and almost every other "category" of "people") in other contexts?... and I
always remind people that one person's opinion is their own, not that of whatever grouping you have decided to assign them to.
No, no, no. You're not understanding this. Americans are by definition freedom lovers. Islamism is by definition freedom hating. Americans are a
diverse people with all kinds of religions, they are not a religion. Furthermore, anyone can go to the US and become an American and demand the rights
an American has. Can anyone go to Saudi Arabia and become Saudi Arabian?
I cannot understand your passion to reduce the category of Arab Muslim to some Nazi-esque level of hatred....
The passion is there because they teach their kids to hate from a very early age. Anyone that's not a Muslim is an enemy trying to take them from the
Muslim path. This is what is taught from parent to child.
To hate "the jew".
This has translated into all kinds of "zionist-conspiracy theories", which by FAR, are nothing more than incorrect, irrelevant banter that can be
described to belong to the realm of paranoid schizophrenics. And it's not just the Arabic Muslims, thick-skull Iranian Muslims are the same if not
worse! And the ones who aren't all that into hating without reason - they try to get away from Islam. Hundreds of thousands of people from different
countries EVERY year escape Islamic oppression.
I hope I have not inflamed your outrage, because this is not meant to be a righteous post; only a heartfelt difference of opinion.
I'm not as bad as you think. Maybe smarter than you think. But not as bad, or angry or impatient.