Why Should More Americans Die For Israel?

Originally posted by Bluesma
That seems so bloody obvious to me, in big international affairs, as well as less important things on a personal scale.... That it boggles my mind how many people seem to struggle with that choice! They desire and search to have power (to have attention, to be a leader, to be popular...) and then bitch and moan that they are expected to fulfil responsibility with that, and that higher standards and expectations are applied to them, and that they take the blame for others mistakes. That is what is entailed in the position, always!

It is a choice.

edit on 25-9-2012 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)

America should not be allowed to have that responsibility. All countries should have an equal say in how the entire world is run. It's the American government that wants this power, power to exploit other nations resources, power to force countries to deal their oil in American dollars.

Of course the citizens are going to "bitch and moan" we didn't choose this.

reply to post by Drezden

You don't have to worry about America . It's done for , we will be just another nation state in the NWO. This war will affect the whole world like it or not . You will like the NWO making your decisions and living under Socialism or worse Communism

People of America are conditioned to hate the bogey man, aka Iran. Thus will support the other, aka Israel or the Jews that control America would be very mad!

reply to post by luciddream

You should read the bible . It was written long before the Koran . The Koran borrowed from the Talmud .

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by luciddream

 

You should read the bible . It was written long before the Koran . The Koran borrowed from the Talmud .

What does that have to do with this?

Abrahmic faith(juda,islam,christi) is too young compared to eastern religions.

reply to post by luciddream


Says who? Some one who did some research and said so !
If you want to know why Iran and Russia is about to come against Israel read Ezekiel chapter 38. You won't find that in any other book . You will also find a one world government and money in Revelations . You will also find that the Temple of God will be rebuilt soon . And you will find a description of the Atomic bomb effects in Zechariah 14 . Those other religions won't tell you anything .

Originally posted by Drezden


America should not be allowed to have that responsibility. All countries should have an equal say in how the entire world is run. It's the American government that wants this power, power to exploit other nations resources, power to force countries to deal their oil in American dollars.

Of course the citizens are going to "bitch and moan" we didn't choose this.

Yeah, and they'd be right. Except the ones that say that and also like to assert that America is so great and is the best, etc. etc.

The only way we could get out of such a responsibility is to embrace some humility and sense of equality with the rest of the world. For most of the American population, "NOT being N° 1 = Being a Third World Country"
They aren't real good with subtility or moderation.......

reply to post by Bluesma


You know...it would be really nice if the U.S. could spend money on itself for a change instead of always having to fix this problem or another. Blue...the fact is that if we don't do it...no one else will and this will just lead us into the same problem we experienced after WWI.

We tried to stay out of it and it came and BIT US ON THE ASS!

I MORE SO THAN MOST know as fact that there are people in the world who are POWER MAD CONTROLLERS OF INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. They always look to the U.S. when things get out of hand and we answer the call. It would be nice if Europe or Japan would actually do something!

But I know they will not. Too easy to just call us! Split Infinity

reply to post by SplitInfinity

I don't think we are going to escape this war no matter what we do . We are over there now to protect the oile flow and keep Russia friendly Iran from taking over all the Oil nations with Russia's help .

We shouldn't and we don't need to. They have God, they don''t need us. Netanyahu went through this grand speech a while back that Israel can take care of itself. They don't need our help. If they don't do it on their own God will. I'm not being witty or snarky, i'm being honest. If they all called on Yeshua they wouldn't have to lift a finger. Theyre not ready for it yet, but they will be after they get their butts whipped, which is what is coming for them.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000
As much as I support Israel and their rights to their land the fact is that we will get in the way of Gods plan for Israel . We must either be incapacitated from protecting Israel or dissuaded from protecting them . I believe we will be incapacitated . This war will be beat back to 1/3rd of their land mass . The Arabs and Russia will take all but a 1/3rd . Israel according to Zechariah 14 will keep 1/2 the city of Jerusalem. After the Abomination of Desolation then Jesus Christ will come to stop Israel from being completely destroyed . They will call on the Name of the Lord and he will hear them , but if we were to defend them they would not need to call on the Lord .
I have read that Arabs know they will not be allowed to take spoil . Russia who also has an interest in Israel and will literally be dragged into the fray possibly to stop nuclear radiation contamination from spoiling the Middle East .

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
We shouldn't and we don't need to. They have God, they don''t need us. Netanyahu went through this grand speech a while back that Israel can take care of itself. They don't need our help. If they don't do it on their own God will. I'm not being witty or snarky, i'm being honest. If they all called on Yeshua they wouldn't have to lift a finger. Theyre not ready for it yet, but they will be after they get their butts whipped, which is what is coming for them.

I agree with you that he has said they don't need our help but Benny's actions makes that statement a lie. He is constantly saying America needs to stop Iran why? Because Israel can't defeat Iran and they know it.

reply to post by Humanity4Ever

Iraq/Afghanistan? Once again, completely self serving for American interests.

Iraq was invaded because of supposed WMD's and who was crying about Iraq's WMD's and in fact attacked Iraq to stop their imagined nuke program? Israel Iraq had no way of delivering a WMD to America so they were no threat to us.

Why should they die for israel? Thats easy. Gods chosen? So if you die for israel then its a sure bet that you will be going to heaven. Isnt that a worthy reason to die for? You will be going up to heaven to sit on a cloud singing hosannas and they will even give you a halo. Its better than going to hell. Die for israel and get a halo, I wonder if they will throw in a few virgins. The other lot get about 70 virgins and they cant wait to blow them selves up. If it works for them then I dont see why it shouldnt work for the christian muppets.

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by luciddream

 

Says who? Some one who did some research and said so !
If you want to know why Iran and Russia is about to come against Israel read Ezekiel chapter 38. You won't find that in any other book . You will also find a one world government and money in Revelations . You will also find that the Temple of God will be rebuilt soon . And you will find a description of the Atomic bomb effects in Zechariah 14 . Those other religions won't tell you anything .

The same Bible you trust and love speaks of Israelites.

Before all the shtf, you may want to recognize how Jews can be Israelites but Israelites are.... not all Jews.

Jesus was NOT a Jew. Jewry consists of denominations just like Christianity.

Jewry came out of Judaism. There were twelve tribes of Israel (Jacob) and they are scattered now.

Its an important fact.

The war thats going on now..... is the same as the Biblical war in the region. Nothing has changed and the
chosen" ones, may be of a surprise to you.

Then again, may be of no surprise. You may know all of the above, but many Christians do not.

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
We shouldn't and we don't need to. They have God, they don''t need us. Netanyahu went through this grand speech a while back that Israel can take care of itself. They don't need our help. If they don't do it on their own God will. I'm not being witty or snarky, i'm being honest. If they all called on Yeshua they wouldn't have to lift a finger. Theyre not ready for it yet, but they will be after they get their butts whipped, which is what is coming for them.

I agree with you that he has said they don't need our help but Benny's actions makes that statement a lie. He is constantly saying America needs to stop Iran why? Because Israel can't defeat Iran and they know it.

They could beat Iran if they used their nukes, but that's foolish for tons of reasons. One of which reasons are the jews living in Iran, that's probably the only reason he hasn't dropped the nukes yet but wants us to use conventional means to take care of his problem. Israel lacks our logistics, weaponry and manpower. When it comes to a war with Iran, Iran can pretty much buy whatever it needs from Russia. Iran has the capability to become a superpower if they'd dump their theocracy.