Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by pajoly
Unfortunately, I think that I have come to that crossroad you described. I may have to finally put my Republican badge away.
I have gone from a hardcore NeoCon myself and realized that I could not defend the ideology with truth or fact. I had to resort to lies and BS that
everyone else knew was false, but I was in my own little world in which I could not be harmed.
That was some time ago and I now try to place myself at the front lines of fighting the infestation that is Neoconservatism. I was wrong and helped
perpetuate it for too many years, so I try to earn my way back.
That being said, I really like Maddow because she is willing to admit when something is wrong...even her progressive cohorts. She uses straight facts
and uses humor to do it.
In the modern vernacular, "I feel you man." I'm a veteran. My flag stays clean and never touches the ground or flies in the dark.
But I am person with a great love for reason and decency, as well as a commitment to honesty and standards. Anyone who has read my posts knows I slam
Obama on many things (NDAA, more Patriot Act, etc.). I detest double standards and permanently judge the value of my fellow posters when I see them
post blatant lies and intentional misdirection. I view such people as moral equivalents to Nazi propagandists and the true enemies of the nation (yes,
seriously I do because I have not a shred of doubt they'll lie about anything at any cost in an effort to install their person in power). I might give
quarter for honest ignorance -- some of this stuff can be arcane -- but not for willful ignorance about easily proven or disproven things.
I have just come to the sad conclusion that I now find the incarnation of today's Right too filled with such people. The honest Republicans are almost
all gone, the great Republican statesmen are no more, the thoughtful country-first moderates have all been forced out. What now has taken its place is
a Christo-fascist mob of dunces and the dangerous. As an American I feel compelled to call them out for what they are and try to shame them back into
the dank cracks and fetid hate "churches" from whence they came. Unfortunately, religious zealots cannot be changed, they cannot be debated. Like
Islamo-terrorists, Christo fascists can only be beaten. At some point the press will label them for the usurpers they are and stop paying them
In the end, it was not hard to leave the party because the party was murdered by cross-bearing neanderthals and I refuse to cheer the assailants. I am
confident Reagan would have detested these people and all they stood for. I also think Reagan and Obama would have had an excellent mutual respect,
both being decent, principled BUT pragmatic people with a love of history and optimistic trust in the American people.
Obama also has the patience of Job; he tried way beyond what I could stand trying to accommodate the vicious lunatics who obstruct him solely for
obstruction's sake. No one of reason can see him interact with people and his own family and come away thinking him some sort of anti-christ. The
facts about him are literally opposite of what the Right claims:
- he lowered taxes, not raised them
- he has invoked less regulation than Bush over the same period
- he completely reversed the worst job drain since the Depression (800k jobs lost/month at its peak)
- he grew government at a slower pace than any president in recent history
- his policies did not explode the debt -- 90% of the debt comes from the things the Right did before him
- he has killed 2x more terrorists (I have a problem with drones) in 4 years than Bush did in 8
- he deported more illegals than Bush did by a mile
- illegal immigration has been reduced dramatically (mostly a function of the economy though) compared to Bush
- oil, coal, and gas production have all grown substantially under Obama, as well as wind
etc. ad nauseum
The Right would have you believe the opposite of these things. I refuse to reward bald-faced liars. They cannot win on facts and refuse to spell out
policy detail, so instead they seek to block voting and lie to their fellow Americans. Historians will write about this election and these times as a
period of great national shame.
I'll close because this post long ago devolved in to a rant.
I will vote for him this time as much as a vote against the Right as for Obama. Decency demands it in my view.
edit on 24-9-2012 by pajoly
because: (no reason given)