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Originally posted by MidnightTide
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by MidnightTide
Do you wish to refute a comment or claim that I have made? I am willing to listen to your opinion, but just calling BS doesn't drive your point home.
What claim, that the Republican party is using propaganda to direct public perceptions into what they want (Hell yes they do this), but you refuse to acknowledge that the Democrat Party does the exact same thing. You claim that the right wing have a special place for this, but I can see the exact same garbage from the left.
Your idea socialist utopia, that you claim some of us do not understand, is a complete impossibility with human nature.....
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Summerian
No, I'm not wrong. I'm going by Marxist theory, I don't know what you're going by. And communism does not authoritarian anything...
The Marxist conception of socialism is that of a specific historical phase that will displace capitalism and precede communism. The major characteristics of socialism (particularly as conceived by Marx and Engels after the Paris Commune of 1871) are that the proletariat will control the means of production through a workers' state erected by the workers in their interests. Economic activity would still be organised through the use of incentive systems and social classes would still exist, but to a lesser and diminishing extent than under capitalism.
For orthodox Marxists, socialism is the lower stage of communism based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution" while upper stage communism is based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"; the upper stage becoming possible only after the socialist stage further develops economic efficiency and the automation of production has led to a superabundance of goods and services
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Anyone here is free to read the position posted in the article for an analysis of Hitler's leftist ideas.
there! fixed it
Please feel free to translate this page from the French
from that page, points in Hitler's program which are expressly socialistic in nature, representative of income redistribution schemes, hatred of capitalism, and the same so-called need to adjust "income inequality".
few months before the change of name German Workers Party (DAP), Adolf Hitler pésente itself a 25-point program, voted and approved before a gathering of 2,000 members, 24 February 1920 in Munich Hofbräuhaus.
Of these 25 points, a few titles that did not disavow certainly, many left parties today:
7. We demand that the State undertakes to provide all citizens livelihoods.
11. The elimination of income idlers and those who have an easy life, the abolition of slavery interest.
13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses now owned by trusts.
14. We demand a share in the profits of big business.
15. We require a substantial increase in retirees' pensions.
Sure sounds like the Democrats of today
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