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Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
What about it is not news? He said it today.
It is well established because it is true.
Maybe you are falling for the media bs that tries to claim Israel always existed for thousands of years as opposed to since 1948.
Originally posted by CALGARIAN
He cannot be THAT ignorant to believe Israel's roots only start 60 years ago lol.
Originally posted by buster2010
Originally posted by CALGARIAN
He cannot be THAT ignorant to believe Israel's roots only start 60 years ago lol.
Israel didn't exist until 60 years ago. This is a map of the area in 1940 there is no Israel.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
You DO realize that, just like Persia became Iran, Israel became Palestine, right? And the "Israeli's" were a combination of Russian (at first) and European (who barred the poor and gypsy like Russian jews from moving in) Jews that wanted to see the "Holy Land" returned to Jewish control?
This was about enforcing a religious war against the Muslims for control of the Holy Land. If the legitimacy of ancient maps is to be used to aid legitimacy to current times, we have to remember that the "Hebrews" became the "Palestinians" by virtue of cultural change.
It is a country of particular geopolitical significance owing to its location in three spheres of Asia (West, Central, and South).
Note: If the Jews have no roots in the middle east how does a much younger religion have roots in the middle east?
Originally posted by buster2010
Originally posted by CALGARIAN
He cannot be THAT ignorant to believe Israel's roots only start 60 years ago lol.
Israel didn't exist until 60 years ago. This is a map of the area in 1940 there is no Israel.
There is archaeological evidence to provide for the "roots" of Israel. Just because you are Antisemitic doesn't change history. You might as well wear an SS band on your arm, because that is what your agenda amounts to.
Originally posted by talklikeapirat
Mahmud Ahmadinedschad is cunning individual, when he speaks about the Holocaust and Israel the way he does, then because he's fully aware of the historical inconsistencies, the collaboration between the Zionist Movement and Nazi Germany and the role it had played in the creation of the State of Israel. He is fully aware of this:
The Zionist record in relation to the holocaust was the logical outcome of a movement which, throughout the war, and in the face of the Nazi exterminations, prioritised above everything the building of a Jewish state.
At a time when Jews, trade unionists and anti-fascists were launching a worldwide economic boycott of Nazi Germany, the World Zionist Organisation was secretly negotiating an economic agreement which allowed richer German Jews to liquidate their property in Germany and redeem part of the money in Palestine. This agreement was announced by the Nazis shortly before the 18th Zionist congress in Prague, in September 1933.
Having this knowdledge and the fact, that the large majority of the 'West' and especially the jewish community world wide have repeatedly missed the opportunity to discuss this part of history openly, enables him to counter a myth with another myth, offering a little truth to disguise the lies and cover the true intentions.
In that regard, one could argue, what Ahmadinedschad says makes sense. But does it really?
“Even today, in a perverse way, a real anti-semite must be a Zionist.” - A.B. Yehoshua, Israeli novelist
Zionism and Anti-Semitism
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by trysts
It's more than just believing. It's a heritage. That is why if your mother is Jewish you are considered a Jew, but if only your father is Jewish you aren't considered Jewish unless you are practicing. It's not just a religion, but its not a race either, althought there are physical markers that many people attribute to Jews.
edit on 24-9-2012 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)