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Except your argument that nature is feminine holds no ground.
We can see instances of matrifocal societies in humanity.
There are species where the female is dominant, and it is attributed to their greater size and aggressiveness.
The natural law it seems, is that the bigger more aggressive gender is more dominant.
My argument was that the feminine was manifestation; and since nature is the principle of manifestation relative to it's cause - God, nature is therefore feminine.
I fail to see your evidence that my argument holds no ground.
Abstracting existing things into male and female archetypes is a contrived concept.
Also, man's sperm isn't the ultimate 'cause' of a child's birth, gestation is.
I just fail to see how 'manifestation' is feminine,
and the supposed Self-caused First Cause is masculine. Maybe you can convince me otherwise?
Originally posted by dontreally
How is it a contrived concept? Every concept is contrived from somewhere. The concept of male and female ultimately derives from the inherent dualism involved in existence. There is a left and there is a right, an up and a down. This is basic. Because Man and woman, the only creatures able to discover this fact, notice it, they deduce that there must be some essential relationship between left and right, up and down - a relationship dynamically similar to the complementarity of masculine and feminine.
From this basic deduction one moves toward the overall theory of masculine and feminine being involved in all essential processes in existence.
What I mean to say is, it is the sperm which actively leads to pregnation. It is the sperm - and not the egg - doing the acting. First, it is the sperm; the egg takes it in, and then gestation occurs. Gestation is the combination of the two processes, and indeed, together they are one and equal, but there is a linear connection between the sperm and the egg, and the sperm comes first in its activity.
This is actually a fairly basic concept of almost every metaphysical tradition the world over, from the neoplatonists to the Kabbalah, to Sufism and the Vedanta.
As said, the basic dynamic is male-female. As in the sperm preceding and being the activity prior to gestation, in mans head transcending the 'body' of the woman, which again refers in objective terms how the males 'consciousness' is transcendent, or outside the innerness of female gestation, or 'within' the body of the masculine (a womans head reaches a mans upper chest, on average). These are consistent metaphors for the same process and dynamic.
You tried to contradict this argument earlier by looking into a lower kingdom to justify that it was really just a power-weakness dynamic, showing that a female spider eats her male partner after having her way with him. But one could well answer that it makes no sense for man to look into a lower kingdom do discover the nature of fundamental existence. Fundamental existence is only relevant to man, thus only man would be the metaphor or image of fundamental existence (in historical thought, this idea is contained in the aphorism of 'as above, so below', or the macrocosmos and microcosmos). Looking deeper, to persist in this idea-metaphor-world relationship, the spider kingdom would refer to a particular way of functioning at a certain level of existence. It's not to be modeled by man, or to be looked at by outside it's particular context. It's context justifies itself.
In the womb all life starts as female. In fact all ovum are female, the change happens later after fertilization. The sex is determined by the sperm but the embryo is female to start with.
Do you know what Adam means in Hebrew? And also what Eve means?
Using left and right and up and down in the same sentence to promote dualism, when the 4 of them—not the two of them—are merely directions we have given names to, is not the greatest example.
Man and woman don't discover this fact, they create this fact and contrive it as a mere linguistic convenience.
A sperm can act as many times as it likes, but no life will come to bear if there's nothing to fertilize.
Both are absolutely and equally necessary, with no gender taking precedence over the other.
This is because the female gender in those cases is bigger and stronger, not because it lives at a lower level of existence.
But we cannot negate their place in the universe in spite of the appearance that we live a somehow higher existence.