reply to post by DragonRain311
then why are we to be punished for living our lives the way we want to
This is a great question. One of the cruelest things that religious apologists like to say is that God gave us free will, but then they turn around
and claim that if we don't do exactly what God wants than God has every right to judge us, or even torment us for eternity. This seems fundamentally
cruel and evil on God's part. It's like telling a child they are free to do what they want and getting angry when they don't do what YOU want. God
is giving us free will but not allowing us to use it to make our own mistakes, and when we do muck up he sends a flood, or a plague or burns us in
To make matters worse God comes off as a very confused parental figure to us, his children. When he does create rules for us they are confusing,
self-contradictory and seem to violate our own evolving moral conscience. For example the God of the Bible directly approves of slavery and even tells
Moses how to set up the slavery system, yet we know today that owning a human being as property is wrong.
To those of us who really THINK hard about it, and have a good deal of empathy and compassion on our fellow human beings, the conclusion has to be
that these rules and holy books are MAN made, not God made.
It seems hypocritical to me to say that God loves each and every person the same as the next person, but if you step out of line, you will burn in
eternal hell fire.
Indeed, it is the most glaring discrepancy in all of fundamentalism, the idea that a loving God would torment you for eternity is absurd on the most
basic of levels. As a flawed human being I could never see myself torturing anyone for any length of time, let alone eternity, so how can a perfect
God commit a sin more heinous than any I could ever commit while remaining blameless.
That is the double-standard of the fundamentalist God. He can punish, enslave, murder and torment without it ever being a sin to do so simply because
he is God. It is the ultimate case of Might Makes Right. God, in the Bible, is portrayed as a King seated on a throne and scenes of Heaven often
involve folks bowing down to him.
Sure some believers choose to take a more reasonable loving approach but that doesn't change the bizarre, immoral and self-contradictory nonsense
that clutters their religious texts.
If the Bible is to be taken literally, including Revelations, than the vast majority of human-kind will end up in the Lake of Fire anyway. Chances are
every living human, even the devout Christians, will have a loved one, friend, family member, lover, who end up in the Lake of Fire. Meaning
Christians will spend ETERNITY BOWING DOWN to the monster that is torturing their loved one(s) endlessly. How anyone could enjoy Heaven with that
knowledge is beyond me...
but of course it's only a problem for those that believe in Hell, the Bible and God. For those that have seen through the stories and set aside the
superstition it's just another point of empathy, logic and reason that leaves religion broken.