Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
I really don't think there is a high probability that we are going to see a "miracle" in our lifetime or even multiple lifetimes where we suddenly all grow a new brain by way of some supernatural manifestation LOL. But I could be wrong....However many lifetimes it takes does not detract from the responsibility to engage the process in this life, the one we have now and are sure about, regardless of what exactly may lay ahead otherwise.
By me saying that, I am not implying that I think you don't know that but mean it for also a larger audience, meaning whoever else besides me and you who might run across this for whatever reason.edit on 24-9-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
Mmmmm, 'k, you be sure about life and reality, the jury is still out for me. I still maintain this is a very complex virtual reality and our purpose in it is still an unknown. That being said, there is no way to engage an unknown process, it's like trying to prove a negative amongst an infinity of non-zero probabilities. We all just do what we think we do and the control over the things we do is simply an illusion. None of us have free will and you can prove that very easily. I imagine you think you have control over your own mind, but a stray electron or neutron, or a large biomolecule can easily change your thinking process. You have no control over those events, they come from outside your body or are processed within your body resulting in neurological change. If we had real control over every facet of our molecular structure, if we could make the subatomic particles that bind us together into complex organic robots dance to our step and tune, then we might have a chance at free will. So saying that we must responsibly engage the process of this supposed life to me, is orthogonally opposed to my ideology, since we cannot do what we have no control over. We are riders on a meat bus.
You do know I am a cynic right? Maybe even somewhat agnostic. You ever hear the agnostics prayer?
"Oh Lord, if their is a Lord, save my soul, if I have a soul"
Now, if someone can prove to me, that the brain is simply an organic robotic control mechanism that allows for some kind of communications tethering to what we really are and that the effects of casual systems and events at a molecular level in this virtual reality do not effect our thinking processes, then hey, I'm game, I'll even admit that there is free will. I expect you understand what I am saying in the above question that requires proof, that the brain is not the mind, the brain or our imagining the brain, is simply an interface into this reality for the mind, which is someplace else outside of this virtual reality. But again, it comes down to proof. It's like the queen of england says she was appointed by God, well, show me God's signature, prove it's God's signature and show me the document outlining the appointment, thank you very much.
Cheers - Dave
edit on 9/25.2012 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)