posted on Sep, 23 2012 @ 05:50 PM
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by DeadSeraph
I don't think that is the case (at the moment). If they wanted a war so badly all they'd have to do is start one, and attack Israel.
Which they have been doing covertly through supporting proxies such as Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad etc for a couple of decades.
I think instead that this rhetoric and chest beating is a way to attempt to drum up support against Israel.
Now, If Israel. For argument sake here. Said something similar how would this be received?
I've been saying for years now that I believe the first nuke to fly if world war 3 starts will be fired by Israel when it's eventually pushed
into a corner it can't escape from.
I hope to hell you're wrong. I'd put nothing past Israel.
The scary part in all of this is the religious factor. There are people in high places who think this is supposed to happen, and that it will
usher in their personal religions "golden age". But they can't have that golden age if they are nuked into oblivion (and they know it). Freaky time
to be alive.
Then the third planet in some obscure location of the Milky-way Galaxy goes silent....
I suppose I should clarify. I am aware Iran is involved in a sort of war against Israel by proxy. What I meant was that I think they know that they
can't win a direct head on conflict with Israel at the moment (though that is ultimately their goal). They are trying to drum up support until they
feel they could potentially attack israel (or goad them into a war) and WIN. They won't make a move in that regard until they are confident they wont
be nuked into the stone age.
As for Israels rhetoric, I think there is a genuine concern there. It's no secret that they are surrounded on all sides by nations who wouldn't shed
a tear to see Israel cease to exist. They've been attacked on multiple fronts before. The last thing they want is Iran (who's leaders have stated
that Israel's extinction as a nation is their desire) to have nukes and level the playing field.
Of course, Israel wishes to drum up support against Iran. The whole world has been trying to reason with Iran on the nuclear issue (even offering to
enrich their Uranium for them). It's Iran that is being stubborn. I used to feel like they had the right to civilian nuclear energy (and I still do),
but they aren't exactly being open about their activities, and their actions have been very antagonistic and counterproductive to diplomacy. It seems
obvious why Israel would seek to prevent Iran from developing a weapons grade nuclear program.
I don't think Israel WANTS a war. But I think they feel one is inevitable. Their hope being that a conventional conflict would be a better outcome
than a nuclear exchange. Unfortunately I think the latter would be a consequence of the former anyways