Originally posted by loam
The top five leading causes of injury-related deaths were:
Motor vehicle crashes
Researchers say the findings demonstrate that suicide is now a global public health issue.
I think this article isn't neccessarily as bad or as depressing as it looks.
For starters, in America the death rate from suicide has hovered around the same areas per 100, 000 for decades. The male rate has always
massively higher. In 1990 for example it reached a massive 20.4 but it evens out when you look at the suicide rate of women at around 5. 2008 it was
recorded at around 19 for men and 4.9 for women. Traffic sitting at around 12 ... there isn't that much difference between these figures with
genderless suicide being 12.5! To give an idea of comparison ... Traffic was at 15.5 in 1999 according to GECD Health Data 2002. Suicide was sitting
at 17.1 for men and 4 for women in 2000, 19.8 and 4.4 in 1995.
Suicide is such a fluctuating figure. 19.8 in 1995 for men becomes around 17.1 and 17.7 in 2000 and 2005 respectively. Suicide rates also hike with
aging population for persons over 65 in the U.S. That '15%' from the article is only a 3.06 raise even using the most bold number of 20.4 as the
starting block. The US has hit 17.7 in 1950
and 19.9 (for men 12.3 genderless) in 1985 according to the world health organisation.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that 32,310 people died last year in traffic accidents, the lowest number since 1949.
“Comprehensive and sustained traffic safety measures have apparently substantially diminished the motor vehicle traffic mortality rate, and
similar attention and resources are needed to reduce the burden of other injury,”
I bolded the bit that makes me think there is somewhat of an agenda here. Am not saying it's 100% bad but we have to accept a number of issues here:
- Injury based death is the criteria ... suicide barely managed to creepy into the top 10 when other factors such as heart disease are allowed on the
- The conclusion of the study seems to be recommending funds/resources from traffic move to depression. It
- The researcher also suggests that poisons, falls etc ... could also be suicides. A suggested figure is 20% of those may be misclassified suicides
- Is it relevant to compare these two statistics?
Accord to this graph suicide isn't so bad: Link
You could certainly see that snatching a five or ten year period might make a trend look a certain way, but there are so many factors causing each
trend such as age, global economy, access to firearms, police investigation methods, recent solar flares, reruns of M*A*S*H ... I'm not tryin to make
the topic trivial but a 2000 - 2009 study declaring a 15% increase seems quite narrow no? Especially when, in the short term, banning firearms alone
actually lowers suicide rates. In micro cases, something as simple as a railing on a foot bridge actually causes less suicides in some areas.
This is all being reported on the back of a $56 million dollar suicide prevention plan
claiming that they are 'shocking' statistics. Yes, in a very short time they are a little shocking. They're certainly not good
statistics. I'm not even neccessarily saying spending the money in this area is bad ... but I do think there is an agenda and a half, and it's a
safe political bet.
Consider this ... with such a fluctuating/hard to report on statistic, it's going to be easy to declare 'victory' on this issue when next year we
drop from whatever number we're at down to a few points less. It's then blamed on the new prevention program rather than a fluctuation that is
I will point out that some stats claim 18.9 during the wall street crash, and I have had to slap this together really quickly but ... I think aging
population among other factors is as much to do with anything else. I don't think it's all doom and gloom, I do
think it's important, and I
do think the rate has gone up over time in general (not over 10 years). I'm not sure the comparison of road deaths to suicides is valid, and I do
think it's a method to pull money out of that pile and put it in the new suicide prevention pile.