Top 10 bad economic signs for Obama

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posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Top 10 bad economic signs for Obama

This article seems outline ten of the most things on voters' minds.

The suggestion is that the Obama Campaign, as well as all Democrat campaigns are engaged in as many deflections as possible away from the real "Home" issues.

comments and explanations are in the article:

Here are the top 10 economic indicators that Obama doesn’t want you to pay attention to:

1. Unemployment rate


2. Job creation


3. Economic growth


4. Food stamps


5. Household income


6. Gas prices


7. Work-force participation


8. Manufacturing jobs


9. Inflation


10. Poverty

Where has Obama gone wrong ?


How do these things affect YOU ?





posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Honestly, My wife and I are better now than we have ever been.

Almost zero debt, just closed on a house whose payments are a quarter of what we where paying, etc.

And heres the key, it has NOTHING to do with the sitting president, it never did, those are all factors that may tip the scales some but OUR effort has been the key.

Nothing else.

In the worst economic downturn my generation has ever seen I am thriving, and its all due to the sweat of my wife and I's brow.

Willingness to tighten our belts and do what was Necessary, not what we wanted but what we NEEDED to do.

This involved moving from a state with one of the highest cost of living, to one thats far more manageable, me considering jobs I would never consider before based on my education and work history.

The president had nothing to do with our Success or Failure.

That pendulum swings both ways, when republicans are up and arms over the "you didn't build that comment" that applies to the failures as well of success, if you did it on your own, well you failed on your own as well.
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posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Yes, these are bad things for Obama.

But if Romney can't articulate that he is capable of doing better, than it really doesn't matter. Out of all this election rhetoric, I am sure of only one thing. Romney SHOULD BE whooping the hell out of Obama. Not winning, but whipping. That's how bad this economy really is.

Nevertheless, Romney isn't doing that and this late in the ball game spells disaster for Romney. As I said a while back, Obama will win reelection. You can Thank Romney and gang for that.

As for my situation, it's tough but I have learned how to cut back on my wants and focus on my needs.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by benrl
reply to post by xuenchen
 


Honestly, My wife and I are better now than we have ever been.

Almost zero debt, just closed on a house whose payments are a quarter of what we where paying, etc.

And heres the key, it has NOTHING to do with the sitting president, it never did, those are all factors that may tip the scales some but OUR effort has been the key.

Nothing else.

In the worst economic downturn my generation has ever seen I am thriving, and its all due to the sweat of my wife and I's brow.

Willingness to tighten our belts and do what was Necessary, not what we wanted but what we NEEDED to do.

This involved moving from a state with one of the highest cost of living, to one thats far more manageable, me considering jobs I would never consider before based on my education and work history.

The president had nothing to do with our Success or Failure.

That pendulum swings both ways, when republicans are up and arms over the "you didn't build that comment" that applies to the failures as well of success, if you did it on your own, well you failed on your own as well.
edit on 22-9-2012 by benrl because: (no reason given)


I have to agree with you wholeheartedly on that statement my friend..

same with me and my wife...don't care who the president is..

we did it with our sweat and blood...



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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we did it with our sweat and blood...


No….I beg your pardon!




posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by baddmove
 



we did it with our sweat and blood...


No….I beg your pardon!




Guess what, like I said, than failure is not anyones fault but their own as well, you cant have it both ways.

people can't spout we did it on our own, than turn around and blame someone for failure as well, doesn't work that way



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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The thing about the whole economy issue that really scares me isn't about Obama or Bush or any man. It's ultimately, not even about groups of men. It's about the Economy itself.

These idiots...all of them....have been blissfully cruising along for decades like the show never ends and good parties can last forever.

All the while, any HONEST economist I've heard speak on the issue will admit no one understands everything about how or why the markets work the way the do. There is a certain degree that 'just is'....and so they can damn sure BREAK it but I'm not even sure they can fix it.

Is it too much to ask that we just stop adding to the problem in an active way though?? In that way, neither guy running now has really addressed the problem in the realistic terms it needs before even suggesting a fair contrast to how each might handle the coming crash.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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Tell that to all the people who are unemployed right now or the 47% of the country receiving some form of government money.

The POTUS and congress directly affect business and the economy. Are you going to tell me that because you have it better these days that the country is doing just fine?



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by benrl
 


Tell that to all the people who are unemployed right now or the 47% of the country receiving some form of government money.

The POTUS and congress directly affect business and the economy. Are you going to tell me that because you have it better these days that the country is doing just fine?



Misunderstanding the argument...

IF the president and government is 100% responsible for what you say, than guess what.

THey are also responsible for the Success as well.

The infrastructure required to operate a successful business comes from the Government and things like taxes.

Again completely missed the point, as I said the Gov and Pres had nothing to do with my own success, so if you want that argument of "you didn't build that to work" than you have to hold people accountable for their failure as well.

But than that requires looking beyond hyperbole and rhetoric, something many do not seem to have the abillity to do.

Would it be easier for my wife and I to thrive under policy of a different pres? YES, is it the ONLY reason, NO.

As with all things the truth lays somewhere between those two points, not at the two extremes.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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You do realize that there has never been a time, in any Admin, when those 10 things you listed were ok.

Is there a "good" inflation number?

We just rebounded out of a "Depression" so Unemployment numbers are much higher than normal, but is there a % that a Admin is acceptable too.

Gas prices, growth, job creation, all the rest , there is never not room to improve.

Manufactoring jobs have left , and wont come back. There were more people employed in Manufactoring jobs in 1975, than there are now, cant blame Obama for Free Trade, and Global Markets set up 30 years ago.

But you will I assume.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Great, another obama thread.

Let me guess, romney will fix it all up and make this list right, right?

Most of the stuff in this list was around before obama.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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Where has he gone wrong>?

The deficit has quadrupled, Under Obama the murderer,

and to who>? OUR enemies china. This president has not made

a single dime, he has not put a dime towards getting it down.

He and his admin just rape and pillage good Americans!



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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Again completely missed the point, as I said the Gov and Pres had nothing to do with my own success, so if you want that argument of "you didn't build that to work" than you have to hold people accountable for their failure as well.


How do you control your own success when the company you work for lays you off and the company down the street isn’t hiring? I can’t begin to tell you how many business owners I personally know who are sitting on their wallet right now because they are unsure of what is to come; the economy is stagnant. Business owners are fearful of the next tax, the next regulation, the next bailout, etc. That is a direct result of this administration and this congress.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by popcornmafia

The deficit has quadrupled, Under Obama the murderer,

and to who>? OUR enemies china.
I thought Romney said Russia was our number 1 Enemy??

Just a little tidbit, it is wasn't for China buying our debt, we would probably lose our First World Status.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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I thought Romney said Russia was our number 1 Enemy??

Just a little tidbit, it is wasn't for China buying our debt, we would probably lose our First World Status.


China is making a ton of money from those loans all because our stupid politicians can’t stop scratching everyone’s back and do their damned jobs!

I say we show our appreciation to China for all the loans by giving them Obama! He’s going to be out of a job soon and it’s the least we can do for our Chinese friends!



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

China is making a ton of money from those loans

Of course China is making money from the Loans, why else take the risk.


You are trying to paint them as bad guys, when they are helping to keep this country afloat.



posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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If anyone thinks Romney will do better on those issues.... YOUUUUU my friend, dont deserve to vote...



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by seabag

China is making a ton of money from those loans

Of course China is making money from the Loans, why else take the risk.


You are trying to paint them as bad guys, when they are helping to keep this country afloat.


This, don't bite the hand that feeds you.



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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1. Unemployment rate
2. Job creation
3. Economic growth
4. Food stamps
5. Household income
6. Gas prices
7. Work-force participation
8. Manufacturing jobs
9. Inflation
10. Poverty

So you are saying these things are good for Rmoney? That's how GOP thinks and feels?

1. Increased under Bush after house bubble. Hard to fix if you are a weak right winger like Obama.
So both the right wing parties (democrats and republicans) are at blame here (both sure do love them deregulations).

2. I would have started factories all over USA and make the rich pay for them. Those factories would mean jobs.

3. All those millions of new jobs would get the economy going. Sure, stockholders would bitch. But then again, they always do.

4. With jobs the need for food stamps would drop 95%. Problem solved.

5. A new law making corporate profits to be split 50-50 with the workers, would get that income up. (Again, stockholders would bitch but to hell with them.)

6. Well if congress did its job you would have electic cars, bio fuel, hydrogen vehicle...
When did you last protest against big oil? Ever? Then don't cry over gas prices. We all know oil will run out.

7. What? Well I'm all for the workers also running the factories...

8. Yeah? What about them? Working in a factory is a manufacturing job, last time I looked.

9. Some how you can make this a rich mans problem and that means problem solved.

10. Will be a bad memory with socialist democrats at the helm.

Find all this hard on the rich?
F**K THE RICH!!!



posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Summerian
1. Unemployment rate
2. Job creation
3. Economic growth
4. Food stamps
5. Household income
6. Gas prices
7. Work-force participation
8. Manufacturing jobs
9. Inflation
10. Poverty

So you are saying these things are good for Rmoney? That's how GOP thinks and feels?

1. Increased under Bush after house bubble. Hard to fix if you are a weak right winger like Obama.
So both the right wing parties (democrats and republicans) are at blame here (both sure do love them deregulations).

2. I would have started factories all over USA and make the rich pay for them. Those factories would mean jobs.

3. All those millions of new jobs would get the economy going. Sure, stockholders would bitch. But then again, they always do.

4. With jobs the need for food stamps would drop 95%. Problem solved.

5. A new law making corporate profits to be split 50-50 with the workers, would get that income up. (Again, stockholders would bitch but to hell with them.)

6. Well if congress did its job you would have electic cars, bio fuel, hydrogen vehicle...
When did you last protest against big oil? Ever? Then don't cry over gas prices. We all know oil will run out.

7. What? Well I'm all for the workers also running the factories...

8. Yeah? What about them? Working in a factory is a manufacturing job, last time I looked.

9. Some how you can make this a rich mans problem and that means problem solved.

10. Will be a bad memory with socialist democrats at the helm.

Find all this hard on the rich?
F**K THE RICH!!!


Build what factories that produce what goods that are purchased by whom? Economics, how does it work?





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