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Originally posted by korathin
Originally posted by purplemer
It is about time this happened. Europe has a shared and very bloody history.It would be nice to see us working together. The US made a sham in Kosovo it would be good to see such matters dealt with internally..
Actually the EU made a sham of Kosovo. The US only came in to clean up their mess, back then there was talk of a EU Army and the USA thought "great, finally some help". Shortly afterwards the EU proved how inept it was and America began looking towards China as a future global partner.
So, the EU would hardly contend for overtaking the US as the worlds top military power if a single army was implemented, unless defense spending were doubled. Doesn't seem likely in the context of budget problems.
However, there would be an advantage against other powers, namely Russia.
Even, so, it is probably in America's interests to oppose this because of the imperial history of Europe. If a single EU military were to happen, I'd imagine a worldwide cringe would take place (especially in Asia and Africa). History shows that Europe is willing to be aggressive towards foreign nations.
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Originally posted by ollncasino
GERMANY, France and nine of Europe's most powerful countries have called for European army, an elected European Union president and an end to Britain's veto over defence policy, in radical vision for the ''future of Europe''.
The plan was backed by Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Poland, Holland, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Portugal
The proposals also demand an end to countries being able to veto initiatives, aimed at preventing the UK which opposes a European army being able to block its creation.
In order to ''prevent one single member state from being able to obstruct initiatives'', a reference to British opposition to a European army, the German-led group demanded an end to existing national vetoes over foreign and defence policy.
This would give the EU the power to impose a decision on Britain if it was supported by a majority of other countries.
Sydney Morning Herald.
The EU has the largest economy in the world, has a population of 500 million people and is the largest trading block in the world.
A European army would allow it to protect its interests globally and translate its economic power into real geo-political leverage. I'm British but with the waning global clout of individual European nations, I feel such a move is long over-due.
A new superpower on the block however may tread on the toes of both China and the USA.
edit on 22-9-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Power_Semi
Sounds very 1984 to me.
All European countries will cease to exist in their own right and it'll be controlled by 1 group of people.