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Originally posted by benrl
Now more than ever we as americans need to put aside all their division tactics, Dem,Rep, Rich, Poor, and anything else they think up to divide us.
Stand united and tell these Retards we are mad as hell and wont take it anymore.
Vote them all out, I don't care whose running against them, Any time I see someone running against an Incumbent Im voting for them no matter what.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by RussianScientists
America can't just stop giving aid to other countries, especially when they need help after a disaster has occurred, or when an opposing nation attacks or threatens their nations; especially when most of them have been willing to go along with the American petro dollar which is not backed by anything and the presses are running faster every year.
Really? Because last time I checked America had double digit unemployed with it's own people living on the street. Of course we need to send money to Israel while our own suffer!
The people that voted no on this need to be tried for treason.
No, that's completely absurd.
Total foreign economic and military aid (2010 - last year available to my knowledge): $52.7 billion
en.wikipedia.org...
Money spent on the military and homeland security in 2010: 700 Billion+
en.wikipedia.org...
You wanna know where our money goes? It isn't foreign aid.edit on 23-9-2012 by longlostbrother because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jimmiec
Carl Schramm on Destructive Foreign Aid
“When we think about the course of development for the last 50 years, we thought the only solution was for rich countries to give money to poor countries. That is the conclusion of Bono, for example, the rock star advances this idea, as do a number of intellectuals. That’s really the position of the United Nations. Now the empirical facts, the quantitative facts, the record of history, actually operates in quite the opposite way. For 50 years, we have seen essentially the suppression of free markets and capitalism as a result of aid and the record is awfully clear that virtually all of this aid supports corruption in the political regimes… Moreover, increasingly we’re understanding that this concept of just flooding a country with aid is actually destructive to the development of creative labor markets.”[
www.laprogressive.com...
www.debate.org...
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by RussianScientists
America can't just stop giving aid to other countries, especially when they need help after a disaster has occurred, or when an opposing nation attacks or threatens their nations; especially when most of them have been willing to go along with the American petro dollar which is not backed by anything and the presses are running faster every year.
Really? Because last time I checked America had double digit unemployed with it's own people living on the street. Of course we need to send money to Israel while our own suffer!
The people that voted no on this need to be tried for treason.
No, that's completely absurd.
Total foreign economic and military aid (2010 - last year available to my knowledge): $52.7 billion
en.wikipedia.org...
Money spent on the military and homeland security in 2010: 700 Billion+
en.wikipedia.org...
You wanna know where our money goes? It isn't foreign aid.edit on 23-9-2012 by longlostbrother because: (no reason given)
I never said I was for the constant war either, and that is a topic for another thread, but $52.7 billion could help the people that lose their jobs, their house, their family and their health to war and constant abuse set upon us by these very same people. That money should not be going to Israel, India, Egypt or wherever else! That is taxpayer money and it should stay in America! These people have no right to vote against our interests using our money. They should be tried for treason.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by RussianScientists
America can't just stop giving aid to other countries, especially when they need help after a disaster has occurred, or when an opposing nation attacks or threatens their nations; especially when most of them have been willing to go along with the American petro dollar which is not backed by anything and the presses are running faster every year.
Really? Because last time I checked America had double digit unemployed with it's own people living on the street. Of course we need to send money to Israel while our own suffer!
The people that voted no on this need to be tried for treason.
No, that's completely absurd.
Total foreign economic and military aid (2010 - last year available to my knowledge): $52.7 billion
en.wikipedia.org...
Money spent on the military and homeland security in 2010: 700 Billion+
en.wikipedia.org...
You wanna know where our money goes? It isn't foreign aid.edit on 23-9-2012 by longlostbrother because: (no reason given)
I never said I was for the constant war either, and that is a topic for another thread, but $52.7 billion could help the people that lose their jobs, their house, their family and their health to war and constant abuse set upon us by these very same people. That money should not be going to Israel, India, Egypt or wherever else! That is taxpayer money and it should stay in America! These people have no right to vote against our interests using our money. They should be tried for treason.
No... sorry, but no... that money is a DROP in the bucket compared to the WASTE in the military.
Instead of cutting something that actually does a bit of good, cut the military spending by 10%, keep foreign aid, and make a PROFIT of 20 Billion!
so.
No, you're setting up this concept America is being hurt by foreign aid, but in fact, we can EASILY afford foreign aid, easily, with tiny cuts to the military... same goes for things like education.
There's NO FINANCIAL REASON to cut foreign aid... it's a pittance compared to other stuff we waste money on.
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by TrueBlood
Originally posted by RussianScientists
America can't just stop giving aid to other countries, especially when they need help after a disaster has occurred, or when an opposing nation attacks or threatens their nations; especially when most of them have been willing to go along with the American petro dollar which is not backed by anything and the presses are running faster every year.
Really? Because last time I checked America had double digit unemployed with it's own people living on the street. Of course we need to send money to Israel while our own suffer!
The people that voted no on this need to be tried for treason.
No, that's completely absurd.
Total foreign economic and military aid (2010 - last year available to my knowledge): $52.7 billion
en.wikipedia.org...
Money spent on the military and homeland security in 2010: 700 Billion+
en.wikipedia.org...
You wanna know where our money goes? It isn't foreign aid.edit on 23-9-2012 by longlostbrother because: (no reason given)
I never said I was for the constant war either, and that is a topic for another thread, but $52.7 billion could help the people that lose their jobs, their house, their family and their health to war and constant abuse set upon us by these very same people. That money should not be going to Israel, India, Egypt or wherever else! That is taxpayer money and it should stay in America! These people have no right to vote against our interests using our money. They should be tried for treason.
No... sorry, but no... that money is a DROP in the bucket compared to the WASTE in the military.
Instead of cutting something that actually does a bit of good, cut the military spending by 10%, keep foreign aid, and make a PROFIT of 20 Billion!
so.
No, you're setting up this concept America is being hurt by foreign aid, but in fact, we can EASILY afford foreign aid, easily, with tiny cuts to the military... same goes for things like education.
There's NO FINANCIAL REASON to cut foreign aid... it's a pittance compared to other stuff we waste money on.
You don't get it do you? We are 16 TRILLION dollars in debt. American can't afford ANYTHING! Nothing! How about we cut military spending by 100% and only go to war when we're attacked like our founding fathers wanted? How about we stop playing world police? How about we let England hand money to Israel? England put those people there let them deal with them. Why are we giving foreign aid to countries that are at war with us over our own people?! What does India do for us that is so important that we need to send them billions a year? For that matter, what does Israel do for us that is so important that we need to not only send them billions a year, but remain in a constant state of war for their holy war?
WE NEED COMMON SENSE IN THIS COUNTRY! WE ARE BROKE! WE HAVE NO INDUSTRY, NO JOBS, NOTHING! AND WE'RE GIVING OUR MONEY AWAY!
Originally posted by jimmiec
reply to post by longlostbrother
Well there is plenty of evidence out there. I have seen it for 40 years and thought it was common knowledge. You obviously have google. Do some research. I posted other links from different sources but will not do your homework for you. I could find thousands of articles if i wanted to.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by TrueBlood
I don't have to "believe" anything as there's ample evidence of how the money does get spent.
Cutting all foreign aid is not even vaguely sane btw.
When Haiti turns into Somalia, how will that cost?
The US' policy of spending less than 10% of it's military budget on foreign aid is completely reasonable.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by FlyersFan
We SHOULD be able to stop bleeding out .. but the damn politicians in DC won't let us.
Helping other countries with foreign is not, "bleeding out"... that's a completely asinine way to describe it...
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by FlyersFan
We SHOULD be able to stop bleeding out .. but the damn politicians in DC won't let us.
Helping other countries with foreign is not, "bleeding out"... that's a completely asinine way to describe it...
What is 'asinine' is you thinking that our 'foreign aid' is actually 'helping out foreign countries'.
What is 'asinine' is you saying that my telling the truth.. that we are bleeding out .. is asinine.
Grow up.
edit on 9/23/2012 by FlyersFan because: fixed quote