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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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One thing you might want to consider is posting the idea for the experiment on physicsforums.com. There are numerous PhD physicists on that site and some of them have specialized knowledge the others don't have. Maybe one of those folks on physicsforums has heard of a related experiment. But if nobody else has done this experiment, you might be onto something interesting, though I'm not sure it would result in a new law of physics. I'd find the experiment interesting even if it didn't result in any new laws.




posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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Came across this and thought it was on topic. Amazing really.



First Demonstration of Time Cloaking

Physicists have created a "hole in time" using the temporal equivalent of an invisibility cloak.

Invisibility cloaks are the result of physicists' newfound ability to distort electromagnetic fields in extreme ways. The idea is steer light around a volume of space so that anything inside this region is essentially invisible.

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Leads to Multidimensional variational Gaussian wave packet dynamics which sounds very.....cosmic. The God Particle. Science and religion are merging and it is about time. A religion with reason. Wave and particle. Right and left brain.


Spectral and temporal processing in human auditory cortex.

Zatorre RJ, Belin P.


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Montreal Neurological Institute, McGill University, 3801 University St., Montreal, QC H3A 2B4, Canada. robert.zatorre@mcgill.ca


Abstract

We used positron emission tomography to examine the response of human auditory cortex to spectral and temporal variation. Volunteers listened to sequences derived from a standard stimulus, consisting of two pure tones separated by one octave alternating with a random duty cycle. In one series of five scans, spectral information (tone spacing) remained constant while speed of alternation was doubled at each level. In another five scans, speed was kept constant while the number of tones sampled within the octave was doubled at each level, resulting in increasingly fine frequency differences. Results indicated that (i) the core auditory cortex in both hemispheres responded to temporal variation, while the anterior superior temporal areas bilaterally responded to the spectral variation; and (ii) responses to the temporal features were weighted towards the left, while responses to the spectral features were weighted towards the right. These findings confirm the specialization of the left-hemisphere auditory cortex for rapid temporal processing, and indicate that core areas are especially involved in these processes. The results also indicate a complementary hemispheric specialization in right-hemisphere belt cortical areas for spectral processing. The data provide a unifying framework to explain hemispheric asymmetries in processing speech and tonal patterns. We propose that differences exist in the temporal and spectral resolution of corresponding fields in the two hemispheres, and that they may be related to anatomical hemispheric asymmetries in myelination and spacing of cortical columns.

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Thanks Arbitrageur, it would be interesting.

I'll put together a thread for physicsfurums in the next few days.

I had considered it earlier but I knew there were better people here,
more likely to be openminded.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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Physicsforums members get tired of hearing too many crazy ideas all the time so they do tend to tune those out and close out those threads quickly (though there's nothing crazy about asking what happens to a wave packet half out of a device when the device emitting it is moved). If you are just describing an experiment and asking if it's been done before, that's just a matter of fact...it either has or it hasn't, so no open-mindedness is really required to answer such a question. I wouldn't claim it will lead to a new law of physics over there though, so I'd leave that part out!


And every once in a while I'm surprised by how open-minded some of those guys are. I think they are well aware of the existing holes in theories, and if someone has better data or a model that fits existing data better, they really do seem interested in that.

Regarding the time cloak, if those guys can find a market of people that need to hide something for 110 nanoseconds, they'll be rich! But since that seems unlikely, it's just a cool experiment, but that has intrinsic value.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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Here is the beginning of McCutcheon's section of his book, under "Rethinking Energy,":


McCutcheon, Mark (2011-07-13). The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy (Second Edition) (Kindle Locations 8174 of 11572). Universal-Publishers. Kindle Edition.


The Misunderstanding of the Nature of Light  

Today’s quantum-mechanical characterization of light as tiny packets of quantized energy also lies behind the well-known paradox referred to as the wave-particle duality of light. For centuries there has been an ongoing debate as to whether light is a wave or a particle. Today, it now appears we have experimental evidence for light behaving as both a wave and a particle. Quantum Theory states that a traveling beam of light exists in a bizarre state where nature has not yet “decided” whether it will be a wave or a particle until it is detected. It is thought that the method of detection itself breaks nature’s uncertainty and forces the reality of either a wave or a particle to manifest itself.

This concept does not state that the detection of light simply exposes whether it was originally transmitted as a wave or particle, since the same beam of transmitted light can be detected as either a wave or a particle simply based on the method chosen for its later detection. Instead, Quantum Theory states that it is only once the light is detected as either a particle or a wave that its originally transmitted nature is “decided” by the universe. That is, according to Quantum Theory, there is a bizarre effect in nature that reaches back in space and time instantaneously – even across billions of light years to distant stars – to define whether a wave or a particle was originally transmitted, based purely on the outcome of its later detection.

This mysterious and completely unexplainable claim of instantaneous backward time travel is the currently accepted scientific interpretation of experimental results today – a claim that is commonly held up as a key example of the bizarre and purely probabilistic nature of not only Quantum Theory but, presumably, of the universe itself. However, as will be shown shortly, Expansion Theory does not require such fanciful explanations of our experimental results; but first, it is important to clarify what we mean when we speak of light waves, and, indeed, waves in general. . . .



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by primalfractal

Came across this and thought it was on topic. Amazing really.



First Demonstration of Time Cloaking

Physicists have created a "hole in time" using the temporal equivalent of an invisibility cloak.

Invisibility cloaks are the result of physicists' newfound ability to distort electromagnetic fields in extreme ways. The idea is steer light around a volume of space so that anything inside this region is essentially invisible.

Link



Leads to Multidimensional variational Gaussian wave packet dynamics which sounds very.....cosmic. The God Particle. Science and religion are merging and it is about time. A religion with reason. Wave and particle. Right and left brain.


Spectral and temporal processing in human auditory cortex.

Zatorre RJ, Belin P.


Source

Montreal Neurological Institute, McGill University, 3801 University St., Montreal, QC H3A 2B4, Canada. robert.zatorre@mcgill.ca


Abstract

We used positron emission tomography to examine the response of human auditory cortex to spectral and temporal variation. Volunteers listened to sequences derived from a standard stimulus, consisting of two pure tones separated by one octave alternating with a random duty cycle. In one series of five scans, spectral information (tone spacing) remained constant while speed of alternation was doubled at each level. In another five scans, speed was kept constant while the number of tones sampled within the octave was doubled at each level, resulting in increasingly fine frequency differences. Results indicated that (i) the core auditory cortex in both hemispheres responded to temporal variation, while the anterior superior temporal areas bilaterally responded to the spectral variation; and (ii) responses to the temporal features were weighted towards the left, while responses to the spectral features were weighted towards the right. These findings confirm the specialization of the left-hemisphere auditory cortex for rapid temporal processing, and indicate that core areas are especially involved in these processes. The results also indicate a complementary hemispheric specialization in right-hemisphere belt cortical areas for spectral processing. The data provide a unifying framework to explain hemispheric asymmetries in processing speech and tonal patterns. We propose that differences exist in the temporal and spectral resolution of corresponding fields in the two hemispheres, and that they may be related to anatomical hemispheric asymmetries in myelination and spacing of cortical columns.

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Cool physics till "which sounds very.....cosmic. "




posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by primalfractal

The God Particle. Science and religion are merging and it is about time. A religion with reason. Wave and particle. Right and left brain.

The Higgs-Boson has absolutely nothing to do with god or religion whatsoever in any shape or form. The name is flippantly short for "Goddamn particle". Also, the left brain/right brain thing is a myth,



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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The story goes like this. In the US when they pitched the version of the LHC they planned to build here, they were asked if spending all those billions of dollars would help us find God. The scientists replied "We will find the higgs boson". So they didn't get funded.

Then next time they were smarter. Nicknamed the higgs boson the god particle and BAM. FUNDED. In Switzerland.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by john_bmth
The Higgs-Boson has absolutely nothing to do with god . . .


Yes it does in the sense of finding that which made it possible, according to the Big Bang theory, for mass to come into being for the very first time. As in creator.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
reply to post by primalfractal
 

Physicsforums members get tired of hearing too many crazy ideas all the time so they do tend to tune those out and close out those threads quickly (though there's nothing crazy about asking what happens to a wave packet half out of a device when the device emitting it is moved). If you are just describing an experiment and asking if it's been done before, that's just a matter of fact...it either has or it hasn't, so no open-mindedness is really required to answer such a question. I wouldn't claim it will lead to a new law of physics over there though, so I'd leave that part out!


And every once in a while I'm surprised by how open-minded some of those guys are. I think they are well aware of the existing holes in theories, and if someone has better data or a model that fits existing data better, they really do seem interested in that.

Regarding the time cloak, if those guys can find a market of people that need to hide something for 110 nanoseconds, they'll be rich! But since that seems unlikely, it's just a cool experiment, but that has intrinsic value.


His thread will get closed in minutes.
They are nazi's about this kind of stuff. been a member there for years



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Find me a single physicist who has stated that the Higgs Boson has anything to do with a god or gods. You might as well go the whole hog and post up the etymology of the term "god particle".
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by john_bmth
Find me a single physicist who has stated that the Higgs Boson has anything to do with a god or gods.


I didn't say they did. Why would they crucify themselves by daring to use the word god. Heaven forbid.

Others have interpreted, accurately, what the thing is purported to do in nature, and coined the expression.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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So basically no physicist has stated that the HB has anything to do with a god or gods. The reason? Quite simple: it has nothing whatsoever to do with a god or gods.


Others have interpreted, accurately, what the thing is purported to do in nature, and coined the expression.

What? These other non-physicists have interpreted definitions defined by physicists more "correctly"?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by ubeenhad
The story goes like this. In the US when they pitched the version of the LHC they planned to build here, they were asked if spending all those billions of dollars would help us find God. The scientists replied "We will find the higgs boson". So they didn't get funded.

Then next time they were smarter. Nicknamed the higgs boson the god particle and BAM. FUNDED. In Switzerland.
This is the version of the story I heard, they blamed it on Leon Lederman listening to the advice of his publisher to sell more books:

What Should 'God Particle' Be Renamed?

"It's a pity that Leon Lederman, otherwise a nice enough fellow, chose to go ahead with this moniker at the advice of his publishing agents to sell more books," Sharma said.



Originally posted by ubeenhad
His thread will get closed in minutes.
They are nazi's about this kind of stuff. been a member there for years
If he repeats the OP from here over there? Yes, they'd close that thread quickly.

If he just asks a question about whether a certain type of experiment has been done? They'll allow that as long as he leaves out the claim it will result in a new law of physics.


Originally posted by john_bmth
Also, the left brain/right brain thing is a myth
A myth with more than a grain of truth behind it.

Why the Left-Brain Right-Brain Myth Will Probably Never Die


There is more than a grain of truth to the left-brain right-brain myth.
Maybe not a very big grain though



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by john_bmth
These other non-physicists have interpreted definitions defined by physicists more "correctly"?


Is it or is it not true that the Higgs Boson is associated with the beginning of mass in the universe - according to physicists?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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It's the Higgs field.


The Higgs field is a possibly discovered, ubiquitous quantum field supposed to be responsible for giving elementary particles their masses.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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If you want to understand physics that has basis in reality, read the works of Walter Russell.


...Curvature of light wave axes, by contraction or expansion between planes of zero curvature is the cause of all pressures; all patterns, all of the attributes of matter, such as density, tenuity, melting point, brittleness, conductivity, and countless other effects which are voided when curvature ceases in planes of rest of wave-field boundaries, or in points of rest (still magnetic light) surrounded by motion which rotates spirally (twin electrical vortices)". (The Secret of Light , page 242-5,)

"As the light units which constitute the rays circle spirally around the Sun in their search for lower pressures, exactly as this mass of light units which is our planet circles around the Sun, they continue to expand and become increasingly negative, the farther they recede from the Sun. It must be interpolated right here that 'light rays' do not proceed directly from the Sun to a planet in straight line. They follow the orbital lines of lowering pressures exactly as does this planet. All direction is curved and every curve is part of an orbit (trajectory). (The Universal One, Pg. 84)

"It is presumed by Man that light travels (in straight lines, rays), because the evidence if his senses so convinces him. Light does not travel and the appearance of its doing so is another of the many illusions of dimension which deceive Man. All light units of matter are given the appearance of form by the magnetic reaction of the attempt of electricity to seek higher pressures. This attempt is registered by magnetism and the resistance is registered in electricity as heat. The rebound into lower pressures and the sudden cooling of the electric whirling particle by the expansion of the lower pressure causes it to solidify. It is turned into ice. It freezes. It becomes what is known as crystallic. All matter is crystallic. Crystallization is a dimension. It is the first appearance of form. Matter registers its energy through the temperature dimension of heat and cold in solids of light which Man calls 'crystals'. Crystals are but 'solids of light' sustained in that illusion of appearance by motion". (The Universal One, Pg. 60)

www.feandft.com...


His books are available here:
www.scribd.com...
edit on 29/9/12 by manofearth because: Added link to books

The OP will definitely like all his books. Start with A New Concept of the Universe A New Concept of the Universe ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BOOKS, EVER

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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You're saying the boson is not a particle associated with the creation of mass?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose
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You're saying the boson is not a particle associated with the creation of mass?
The theory says that all the fundamental particles get their mass from the Higgs field, not just the Higgs boson.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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Higgs is not THE boson. There are a couple different types of non-fermionic particles called bosons. Another type of bosonic particles are gauge bosons. They are photons, gluons, the particles that carry force. A graviton if it exists is also a guage boson. (there are other bosons as well) To understand bosons you gotta understand fields.

A Higgs Boson is just a "quanta" of "excitment" of the higgs field, which is throughout all of space. Its actually the smallest possible "amount of excitment" of the higgs field. The more you excite the field, the more mass you have.
(Very rudimentary explanation).

So how is mass any more "godly" than energy. Or light? Wouldn't a Photon be a good god particle cause it allows us to know stuff.
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