DHS orders 200,000,000+ more rounds of zomgwtf ammunition, page 1


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Topic started on 21-9-2012 @ 05:59 PM by TheLegend
One key clue about the government's agenda has always been looking at where it's (discreetly) spending its money.

Just when you thought that lovable DHS was satisfied with their recently ordered 1,200,000,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition (and rounds that can penetrate walls), they decided they needed some good sniper and rifle ammunition too.

Source and Gov solicitation 1, Gov solicitation 2

.308 caliber 168 grain bullets are the ammunition of choice for experienced law enforcement snipers.

The 200 million rounds of .223 bullets are also very likely being intended to be used in sniping operations. They're a popular round for it.

ETA: Due to recent responses I should add that such caliber hollow point rounds are outlawed by the Geneva convention for wartime use. That means these rounds can only be used in one place by one department (DHS) that has authority over that 1 place (guess where). This order comes around the same time QE3 was announced. They must know the economic collapse and hyperinflation is going to be even harder & faster now after the stock market bubble explodes and the Fed floods in $40 billion in newly printed fiat money a month, so the DHS wants to be well prepared.

But I never understand why, on the recent DHS threads, nobody wants to give it much attention. Do you think they're not going to use all of these very lethal bullets? Do you know what DHS stands for? There's a part in there called "Homeland". Oh well, now I know why large, "disposable coffins" have been being stockpiled.
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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 06:48 PM by TheLegend
Originally posted by wewillnotcomply666
Maaaaaaaate, you failed as soon as you used infowars as a source .


If you bothered to look at the links within the source you'd see the information Infowars provides comes from www.fbo.gov and straight from the DHS.

www.fbo.gov...
The DHS Immigration and Customs Enforcement requires the following items, Exact Match Only, to the following:
LI 001, .308 168gr BT Match
176,000 ROUNDS of .308 caliber 168 Grain hollow point (HP)(match grade)

With other ammunition specifics found within amendments.
www.fbo.gov...
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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 06:54 PM by mikellmikell
reply to post by MasonicFantom


Not really I just shoot alot and thats not alot of rounds. Just an FYI
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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 07:09 PM by MasonicFantom
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1.4 billion being a lot or not is arguable.

But if you're not worried about the quantity (and these aren't machine gun rounds we're talking about where quantity is less worrisome), then it's what type of bullets they are ordering and who is ordering them that should concern you.
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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 07:11 PM by NoRegretsEver
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I have a friend that works with jacket inspection and that indeed is a lot of bullets....

Peace, NRE.

Here is a tip for those that think that this may be a small amount of ammo. Those that claim to have firearm experience will (if they need to disclaim) that its not enough, but they leave in packaging and bullet size.

They know, and dont want to say.

Peace, NRE,.
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reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 07:59 PM by wewillnotcomply666
Originally posted by TheLegend
Originally posted by TheLonewolf
Said in a much nicer way than I would have..Seriously, how many times do we need to see the same story over and over and over again? They ordered ammo, so what..Theres not a goddamned thing you or anybody else can do about it...

How many threads are started on ATS that we are powerless over? Most are. What's your point? Being informed is all this site is about, not about trying to fix things. What are you going to do about the Federal Reserve's private little Gestapo? Or the DOJ's emails to Media Matters? Nothing.

All this hoopla over ammo..Take guesstimate as to how much ammo the military has stockpiled...Nobody seems to worry about that..If the big bad evil government wanted to "enslave" us citizens as you geniuses believe, they'd have no reason to publicly order ammo
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First off, it's the DHS who is doing the stockpiling. A federal agency that deals exclusively with internal affairs. Secondly, such caliber hollow point rounds has never been stockpiled by the US military. The Geneva convention has outlawed these ammunitions for wartime use. That means these rounds can only be used in one place and one situation by one department who has authority over 1 place. I'll give you some time to figure out where that is.
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THANK YOU. I was hoping someone would say that. Even so , i still dont think most will understand what you mean lol.


reply posted on 21-9-2012 @ 08:15 PM by davjan4
I thought those were grave liners. Nearly 2 1/2 people die each year. www.cdc.gov...
The manufacturer has to stage inventory somewhere.

Lots of them need a grave liner. These keep dirt from collapsing the coffin and thusly keeping the dirt above it from collapsing, keeping everything above nice and neat.

I just don't think these are any kind of coffins for multiple people. There's just nothing to see here. '

About the ammo. I keep hearing that they don't use hollow point for practice, but theydo . I have a close relatiec who works for DHS. I ask him myself about that ammo. He said they do use it for practice. He is concerned about those FEMA camps, what with the barbed wire facing inward...

I've had a very bad feeling that I cna't explain since 2010. So I have much more food and ammo now, and grow food. Chickens in the spring. As I'm typing this, my solar power system is running things....
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