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Originally posted by windword
Originally posted by benrl
Originally posted by sylent6
Jesus wife is God's organization, his government, his people. People its symbolic.
Yep, people don't seem to understand Jesus constantly called the church his Bride.
Can you please quote where in the Bible Jesus call his "church" his bride?
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by Deetermined
I take that to mean the Kingdom is within.
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
Being of the Jewish faith Jesus would have had to have had a wife. It was required by doctrine. He was a man of faith, he would have obeyed the laws of his religion.
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by Deetermined
I take that to mean the Kingdom is within.
That could be, but the question we have to ask ourselves is what happens to those who have the "door shut" on them at the time that the marriage takes place?
Matthew 25:10-13
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Originally posted by TheLonewolf
Just read the article and it's riddled with "he believes, he thinks and he say's" Just because someone thinks, says or believes something does not make them an expert..How do we know this guy isn't a ignorant, narrow minded bible thumper? So i just looked this guy up and guess what? He is a bible banger..Go figure, he would dispute this]
Why would Jesus be invited to his own wedding?
Originally posted by Ironclad
Originally posted by TheLonewolf
Just read the article and it's riddled with "he believes, he thinks and he say's" Just because someone thinks, says or believes something does not make them an expert..How do we know this guy isn't a ignorant, narrow minded bible thumper? So i just looked this guy up and guess what? He is a bible banger..Go figure, he would dispute thisedit on 21-9-2012 by TheLonewolf because: (no reason given)
You don't.
What is he a proffessor of? What affilliation dose this university have with the church?
For all we know he's got a degree in bible studies from one of those Creationist christian universities, which really accounts for nothing in the way of expertise...lol
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
Being of the Jewish faith Jesus would have had to have had a wife. It was required by doctrine. He was a man of faith, he would have obeyed the laws of his religion.
Originally posted by autowrench
Originally posted by TheLonewolf
Just read the article and it's riddled with "he believes, he thinks and he say's" Just because someone thinks, says or believes something does not make them an expert..How do we know this guy isn't a ignorant, narrow minded bible thumper? So i just looked this guy up and guess what? He is a bible banger..Go figure, he would dispute this]
Yeah, I read it too, and it is clear that author is no "expert." When I say "I think," or "I believe," I mean I think that and believe that, I do not mean it is an established fact.
There seem to be a lot of "Christian Experts" on Ancient History of late, just trying to prove their book is still tangible and somewhat correct, according to current belief and trends. I dare say the fragments will prove themselves, and lay this matter to rest, whether the religious crow like it or not.
Originally posted by adjensen
But perhaps you mean that Rabbis were required to be married, which is true, but only applied to Rabbis who were leaders of synagogues, not itinerate Rabbis, which Jesus clearly was. As a traveling teacher, Jesus was not required to be married.
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by adjensen
But perhaps you mean that Rabbis were required to be married, which is true, but only applied to Rabbis who were leaders of synagogues, not itinerate Rabbis, which Jesus clearly was. As a traveling teacher, Jesus was not required to be married.
Just to expand on this, Jesus was against anyone having titles...
Matthew 23:8-12
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Marriage is one of the most important Jewish acts because it fulfills a command by God in Genesis "to bear fruit and multiply." Marriage is regarded as the cornerstone of both family and community life. Celibacy is considered unnatural..
factsanddetails.com...
In Judaism, marriage is viewed as a contractual bond commanded by God in which a man and a woman come together to create a relationship in which God is directly involved.[Deut. 24:1] Though procreation is not the sole purpose, a Jewish marriage is also expected to fulfill the commandment to have children.[Gen. 1:28] The main focus centers around the relationship between the husband and wife. On the spiritual level, marriage is understood to mean that the husband and wife are merging into a single soul. This is why a man is considered "incomplete" if he is not married, as his soul is only one part of a larger whole that remains to be unified
en.wikipedia.org...
The bride anticipated the return of the groom, the exact time of which she did not know, and which could occur at any time. Her experience during this time must have included some doubt and anxiety that the groom might not return for her.
The bride would ensure every night before retiring that she had an oil lamp prepared, in case her groom returned for her at night (cf. the Parable of the Ten Virgins, Matt. 25). Since grooms often returned at midnight to surprise the bride, and since the journey back to the nuptial chambers through the dark streets of a Israelite village could be hazardous, the bride would continually have an oil lamp ready, in preparation for the return of the groom.
ldolphin.org...